[Liz]

Maybe if Disney inserted a gay theme, the film would have worked. LOL.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

When the board finally wises up and gives Eisner the boot Disney stock will rise 20% in a week.

[Petronski]

I don't put it past Disney to 'insert a gay' anything.

BOYCOTT DISNEY: a vortex of seductive evil™

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't half the problem simple demographics?

Disney cartoons did best when the baby boomers were kids.

The made a comeback in the late 80s, early 90s, when the boomers started having kids of their own, and the "baby boomlet" started.

Now the boomlet is aging into older fare.

So there's no ready made audience for their big budget cartoons.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Has anyone here seen Treasure Planet? What did you think?

[boris]

It was a -stupid- idea: Treasure Island in space. Oh yeah.

Maybe the Japanese could have done it in 'anime' style. I dunno.

[weegee]

3-D landscapes and vehicles don't interact well with 2-dimensional representations of characters. Computers may automate the process but it just doesn't look the same.

This is a first impression without even considering the plot/writing, or actors/voices, or even the competition at the box office.

[EternalHope]

Maybe if Disney inserted a gay theme, the film would have worked. LOL.

People today automatically assume Disney fims will include various nutcase PC/liberal themes. This has been going on for so long that the families Disney claims to be targeting have decided not to go.

Now, if they made a good movie, only the PC liberals would see it (and they would hate it). The family audience would never find out it was good, because they would not go in the first place.

Disney will never figure it out, either. They are staffed so completely with PC liberals that they think PC libs are mainstream.

[Charles Henrickson]

Next up for Disney . . .

JACKO
The King of Pop

[Lysander]

I have not seen any pre-release hype. They usually start hyping a year in advance.

[IronJack]

Homophilia doesn't seem to be paying off, does it? Let's see, a company built on its broad appeal to innocent children embraces a markedly homosexual agenda. I'm not the biz wiz Mike Eisner is, but Marketing 101 would tell you that's a BAD IDEA!!!!!

[Texas2step]

"victim of its own phenomenal success with "The Lion King" "

Disney had several excellent movies over the years, but almost always because of a strong story, and often because of great music as well. Lion King combined several winning element - great story (although a little on the PC side), great music, and incredible animation.

I remember seeing the previews for the Lion King at the theater almost a year before it came out, and it blew me away. I remember telling my wife, "there's a kid's movie that I want to see!".

Other excellent Disney movies (IMO) Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, and to a lesser extent The Little Mermaid. All great stories, all excellent animation, all contained excellent music.

But "Treasure Planet"?!?!?!?!? What were these guys thinking? Or, maybe a better question, what were these guys smoking? The animation is still great, but what songs does this movie have? Taking a children's classic and turning into something completely different? Bad move.

Yes, there is probably also effects from the boycott, but probably more so because there simply is no compelling reason to take the kids to this one. There's better, more appealing fare available more often, and the competion is much stiffer.

Now, Pixar, is incredible. So far they are batting 1000, but it's incredible animation, and very good stories.

BTW, how could they have possibly spent $140 Million on this thing? The animation is not nearly what they had for the Lion King (simply the best animated cartoon ever, from a technical standpoint).

[GSWarrior]

Disney used to make great family movies....That Darn Cat, Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit, Old Yeller, etc....movies that actually told an intelligent story.

[TexasRepublic]

I thought "Lilo and Stitch" was a welcome break from the usual Disney song-and-dance formula movies. Did anyone here see L&S or like it besides me?

[WriteOn]

How long can Disney go on pilfering it's past. They keep coming up with trashier and trashier versions of classics. Looks like death spiral.

[oust the louse]

After seeing the clips of this movie,both my son who is 8 and myself both agreed it hit absolutely no hot buttons in our needing to see it.Looked way too over done with a very deep,dark plot and characters you wouldn't be able to associate with.I could tell right from the start of seeing the clips it was a doomed fiasco...too bad,good ridance!

[The Wizard]

this is BS in it's purest form, and this reaction shows how much these people hate the family values in this film:

may I suggest the truth here

[The Wizard]

This is the review I did for Amazon.com. I am enclosing it here in response to questions I received on a previous thread.

For the Freeper audience I would also add that a lot of us have been down on Disney for promoting "alternative" life styles, and they do that here as well, but in "Treasure Planet" they are alternative life FORMS not styles.....and they are all "normal"

Also, I would say that there was a true bond between a Mother and her Son, and it showed the impact on them when the husband leaves them behind....This is the first time I can remember seeing the effect of a parent leaving, shown in such an easy to understand way that it might actually convince some future "sperm doners" that leaving has a price that is paid by those left behind

I don't want to tell too much, but old Long John Silver is going to touch your heart.

Here's the review:

The same way "Fantsia" was unappreciated in it's initial release, "Treasure Planet" has so much happening it's not surprising it opened to mixed response: it will take repeated viewings and some time for it to sink in, it's that good....

Opening to low box office, many were quick to lable it a bomb or dud, but far from that, this is a great film that will be around for years.

Incredible animation in an assortment of forms, (ie: simple, computer, saturday morning, anime, straight Disney, and combinations) it's as good as it gets.....I loved the Captain, an english woman with a lot of pluck, and a variety of supporting characters that are all blended in nicely to tell the story of a space age "Treasure Island"

There are many of the regular Disney touches, a very nice song, (only one, and that's fine) and a return to Parent and Child love and respect often missing these days...

I say, open your mind and allow it to wash over you, don't start with preconcieved notions, and you will leave the theater with a good feeling, a moist eye and the knowledge that you will have to see it at least once more to see everything...

[lavaroise]

Maybe if Disney inserted a gay theme, the film would have worked. LOL.

Nope, kids are not stupid. They want helpful heros, not morons who fight for their sex privileges. G_d help us and them.

[Walkin Man]

I guess Disney will have to hold more "Gay Days" perv-fests at its parks to make up for all the bombs they have put out lately. Maybe Eisner should make a gay porn cartoon with Mickey, Goofy and Donald, Disneys core supporters in Hollyweird would love that I bet.

[Merdoug]

I must respectfully disagree with the comments here. I've seen quite a few disney films and they don't come aross as pro homosexual. I think the problem with disney is that the majority of teens today are corrupted monsters and an innocent movie is the LAST thing they want to see. They're too busy getting into trouble, getting pregnant (or getting someone pregnant) or going to see "8 mile". There are very few innocent kids nowadays except maybe those under 8 or 9.