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Secret American Space Planes to Dominate Planet Earth
Anomalia.Ru ^ | FR Post 12-6-2002 (16:00 2002-11-05) | Translated by Dmitry Sudakov

Posted on 12/06/2002 6:35:48 AM PST by vannrox

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Mach 9 is not a problem. . .the rate of acceleration is. That may be what you are referring to. From zero to Mach 9 in an instant and you become jello. Zero to Mach 9 in, say five minutes is tolerable and easy.
Cheers
81 posted on 12/06/2002 10:44:24 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Cooter
9 G's is not bad at all.

For me G's are darned comfortable and feel good.
7G's and up, that is when the HELMET becomes uncomfortable.
No big deal.

Fighter pilots in the F-15/16 hit 9 G's all the time. Heck, it's FUN to pull G's. Not pulling G's drives you nuts, and if I didn't hit at least 5 G's on a sortie, at least once, any type of sortie, I'd feel cheated. 4 G's in the traffic pattern is standard.
I've over-G'd the F-15E a few times, hitting 11 G's once and never really felt all that much different than 9 G's. It was only that pesky "bitching betty" auto-warn system that gave me a clue I was over-G'ing. Bitch.
Cheers
82 posted on 12/06/2002 10:50:52 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: spetznaz
>>A picture of the real Aurora aircraft is even more rare than a picture of an UFO. So far, Russia has only one picture of the mysterious American plane. The picture was taken by a Russian intelligence officer at the moment when the Aurora plane was refueling in the air. Later, it became known that before the “flying tank of fuel” (KC-135 aircraft) refueled the Aurora, a spy plane flew across Russia from east to west and was not detected by any radar systems.<<

This picture is a hoax, doctored by a Brit. It shows a KC-135 refuleing a "UFO," with F-111's on the wing. Problem is, the "UFO" is an insert and the three F-111's are the same aircraft, just copy/paste.

Now.. .nothing here, nothing to see, move along now. . .WE will be watching you.
83 posted on 12/06/2002 10:54:33 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: The Great Satan
Thanx. The idea is a little wigged out, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Last year, me and a co-worker were having a smoke outside.

Beautiful clear blue sky and warm.

So we were both looking skyward when this chrome “half-disk” moved slowly across the sky. We both looked at each other and looked back but it was gone.

I'm not saying it was a flying saucer but it sure as hell wasn't no plane!

Oh yeah... they were regular cigarettes we were smoking. HA!

84 posted on 12/06/2002 10:57:52 AM PST by johnny7
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To: PresidentFelon
enormous triangular shaped craft

That seems to be the shape described in most UFO reports nowadays. It was the description in the Phoenix Lights incident a few yrs. ago.

I read that a Jane's Aircraft analyst observed a large delta craft from an oil rig in the North Sea. He said he was very familiar with aircraft and this was a new one for him.

85 posted on 12/06/2002 11:22:35 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
340m/s=760.76m/sX9=6847MPH
86 posted on 12/06/2002 11:49:07 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
340m/s=760.76m/s.
87 posted on 12/06/2002 11:49:50 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Boy, did I ever screw up the editing on that last post: 340m/s=760.76MPH or 1115FPS, just over the speed of sound or Mach1; Mach9 would be ~9450MPH.
88 posted on 12/06/2002 11:54:19 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer
I'm going to have to quit trying dig this hole, I guess; Mach1=~1100FPS=760.2MPH.Mach9=6752MPH=9790FPS.

I gotta low down.

89 posted on 12/06/2002 12:09:39 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: anobjectivist
The matter of getting to that velocity, on the other hand....

That is what I was thinking of.

I had assumed that since it would be making relatively short hops (compared to attaining LEO) that the acceleration would be murderous.

90 posted on 12/06/2002 1:02:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: dead
Can you arrange for ANYONE to help me when I'm in Home Depot or Lowe's?
91 posted on 12/06/2002 1:13:09 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Old Professer
I see where I screwed up, it was the reference to the 6M speed with 340 m/s equalling 1 M. 6*340 m/s = 2.04 km/sec = 4563 m/hr.
92 posted on 12/06/2002 1:35:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Gunrunner2; VaBthang4; wardaddy; PsyOp; weikel; swarthyguy; Stavka2
This picture is a hoax, doctored by a Brit. It shows a KC-135 refuleing a "UFO," with F-111's on the wing. Problem is, the "UFO" is an insert and the three F-111's are the same aircraft, just copy/paste. Now.. .nothing here, nothing to see, move along now. . .WE will be watching you

Yeah, i actually knew that the photo of the Aurora refueling (the flying tank-black manta pick) was some hoax that somehow made it into web mythology and got blown out of proportion. That i knew ...however i do think that the US is working on some next-generation plane thingimajig!

I actually envy the folks who will be flying the plane (i am assuming it is manned and not a UCAV, although it could veryw ell be ...although some months ago i managed to 'get into' this closed site where i saw a prototype manned plane, and that was the time i stopped defending Russian Su-30s ...if you recall i used to be quite adamant about Sukhoi efficacy then i suddenly stopped. Well, i saw something that gave me something akin to a wet dream and goosepimples merged into one, and that thing was US. And it made me change my perception of Russian jets, including their stealth berkut and mig-mapo 1.42 forever!)

Anyways that pic of the refueling aurora/black manta is a fake!

At least that is what the spooky men in black trenchcoats told me after they apprehended me and threw me inside their black truck (sarcasm)! They told me to say it was fake ...and that the crazy whirling lights i saw last week were nothing but swamp gas reacting with the northern borealis lights, and that the green guys who stuck probes in places i was told in sunday school are nothing more than just due to light getting refracted off the feathers of migrating geese!

Yes!

Yep ...now let me go take medication because i can hear voices telling me i am the reincarnation of the hindu god Shiva, and my stuffed teddy bear (the one with a yellow parasol and daisies in one hand, and dandelion on the other) just came to life and started dancing a jig while singing the polka!

As i said, time for medication! Shhhh ...who said that!

93 posted on 12/06/2002 1:38:16 PM PST by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
The one that I saw coming out of Edwards wasn't any delta shaped aircraft, it almost looked like a dart and that is what was talked about around Burbank airport durring those years and at that time Kelly Johnson and the skunk works was based there.

See post #56.
94 posted on 12/06/2002 2:03:24 PM PST by dalereed
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To: anobjectivist
I am not 100% certain the test bed model was so equipped, but I am 100% certain that the full-scale project was supposed to be.
95 posted on 12/06/2002 3:13:36 PM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: laker_dad
well, according to my HS physics:
Distance = (d)
Time = (t)
Mass = (m)
Velocity (v) = d/t
Acceleration (a) = eeep! don't remember! ((v)final-(v)initial))/(t) ???
Force = m*a
A "vector" is defined by velocity and direction, not vice versa
96 posted on 12/06/2002 3:22:01 PM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: The Great Satan
noooo. the "Dora" and her less well-built sister ships are stationed at the endloschloss in Antarctica.
97 posted on 12/06/2002 3:30:51 PM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: vannrox
Sounds like some has found the Lost Dutchman Tinfoil Mine.
98 posted on 12/06/2002 3:32:07 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: vannrox
Bump
99 posted on 12/06/2002 3:35:52 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Thermalseeker
That's what I believe. I was told (by real insiders) back in the 90's that the Japan Clipper was cancelled "Because it had already been done" and that we had a similar space booster plane that looked much like the B70 (both crashed, we were told).

You don't retire your best stuff like the Blackbird; or reveal the F17 and B2, unless the secrets are piling up deep.
100 posted on 12/06/2002 3:40:51 PM PST by John Jamieson
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