Secret American Space Planes to Dominate Planet Earth

Anomalia.Ru ^ | FR Post 12-6-2002 (16:00 2002-11-05) | Translated by Dmitry Sudakov

[Bernard Marx]

This is completely off-topic, but I've been wondering: are you any relation to nervoustitter? As in: "A nervous titter ran through the audience."

[Orion78]

PING

[El Sordo]

It's the S.H.E.I.L.D. Helicarrier, of course.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Our scientists are not working on any projects that might counteract the American space planes,” Kolganov said.

Rest easy, citizen Kolganov. We are your allies now.

[varon]

In other words, America is working on the first ever space army, which would provide the United States with complete domination in near-Earth orbit.

So of what use is the domination of near-earth orbit if we can't protect our land borders from invasion by masses of unarmed civilians. Sheeeesh ;-)

[The_Media_never_lie]

I heard that after the theater attrocity the Russians planned to deport 700,000 Chechen refugees.

[Focault's Pendulum]

we've been working on lifting bodies for decades now

Yes we have

Apparently research is a good thing.

[edwin hubble]

"if no enemy planes are flying that high, why do we need to spend the money on a plane that does... "

You have a point... In fact the current Navy fighter,
the F-18, is nowhere near as fast as the cold-war developed F-14. It doesn't need to be any faster because there is no real competition.

But this hypersonic (space) plane will (eventually) allow us to put a human on the other side of the globe in a weapons platform in about 30 minutes.

And the space plane will give us the technology to achieve runway-to orbit flight. at 10% the cost of shuttle launch.

It is not just one aircraft's superiority. It is a huge leap in flight capability.

[edwin hubble]

Long term strategic capabilities are important.

China is initiating a space program, with strong military implications: space station and moon landings planned.

Their GNP may exceed our in 20 years.

Don't worry about the US dominating anything in the long run. If we can stay in the game that will be good.

[ElTianti]

guess I was imagining an actual airborne platform for launch AND recovery, but after further analysis you're probably right. The plane is merely dropped from another plane and then lands on it's own on the ground somewhere. I know Germany had launch AND recovery systems for light aircraft from derigibles pre-WWII, and of course we all know that the early x-planes of Chuck Yeager vintage were dropped from B-29's. Like I said, I guess my imagination got the best of me because the image of a massive 'aircraft carrier' floating in the sky is what came to mind! Oh well, I'm back firmly on the ground now! ;>))

In the 50's the USAF test a similar concept the
B-36"Peacemaker" (great name) bomber carrying the
very tiny McDonnell XF-85 Goblin.

However wiser heads prevailed...

[SSN558]

Aurora was captured on film around ah, i'm guessing now about 1989, by an amature photographer. The pictures were published in Aviation and Space Week. The project was plagued with cost and schedule overruns then canceled in early 1990. The cancelation of this program was quickly followed by Small ICBM aka migitman, Peacekeeper, most of the star wars research, the National Aerospace Plane, and others. I was there, I worked on most of them, I had my fingers on the hardware. They were real but deemed unnecessary at the end of the cold war.

[fightu4it]

Who knows? Maybe, if we are lucky, we can extend this constant warfare into outer space. Wouldn't that be special?

[SSN558]

Platelet technology was used. This is the same technology used to cool ICBM and several advanced interceptor reentry vehicles. Thousands of foil platelets chemically etched with tiny holes are stacked up and fused together to form solid structure. Liquid Nitrogen, Helium, or Hydrogen is bled from the skin for cooling purposes. A screaming, Mach 24, white hot reentry vehicle needs this. When liquid or slush hydrogen is used it serves a dual purpose. The Leading Mach cone can be used as a rocket nozzle and aeroheating sustains the combustion providing additional thrust.

[redheadtoo]

Some years ago I asked my father, who is an engineer and a former Air Force officer, about "Project Aurora." I had heard that it was an air craft so advanced that it was able to negate the effect of G forces on the human body allowing planes to fly faster and with greater maneuverability than ever before.

My father said that the idea was impossible because it violated the laws of physics. He also showed me a book he was reading at the time, written by a retired Air Force general. The author mentioned Project Aurora and stated it was not a super secret air craft but a project to raise funding for research.

[varon]

I'm certain you realized my comments were laced with a large dose of sarcasm ;-)

[edwin hubble]

"I'm certain you realized my comments were laced with a large dose of sarcasm ;-) "

I will really have to slow down read and analyze replies more carefully. There is so much thick-headed posting going on... I missed the irony in your comment.

[freebilly]

a spy plane flew across Russia from east to west and was not detected by any radar systems.

So how did they know...?

[ravingnutter]

No, I'm not...I was bestowed the name "raving nutter" by a bunch of liberals on an iVillage forum during the Clinton impeachment trial. Some people just can't handle the truth, LOL!

[ravingnutter]

No human could withstand that kind of acceleration.

FYI...

Lieut. Col. Don Diesel of the Air Force, who evaluates G-suit technology for the Air Expeditionary Force Battlelab at Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho, said G-suits combined with Combat Edge had proved highly effective in protecting pilots. But he said these pneumatic systems, with their valves, pumps and switches, added complexity and weight to the aircraft. "It would be good to have something simpler that worked as well or better," he said.

One such advance could be the Libelle suit, being developed by Life Support Systems, a Swiss company. The single-piece, full-body suit, which has been tested by the Swiss and German air forces and underwent United States Air Force trials this summer in Texas and California, uses long tubes filled with fluid to combat high-G acceleration forces.

Pilots testing the suit in centrifuges have withstood 12 G's of acceleration without a special breathing apparatus like a Combat Edge because the whole body is protected, he said. Subjects still use the anti-G breathing maneuver in high-G situations, he said, but it is not as stressful as with conventional anti-G suits and they can converse normally without positive pressure breathing interfering...Pilots also seem to be able to move their arms more easily in the Libelle and report much less fatigue after flights, Colonel Demitry said. "But the big thing is that pilots can talk at 8 or 9 G's, which is difficult when using a positive pressure breathing system," he said.

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[Saturnalia]

Actually, a XB-70 still remains intact at the Wright-Patterson Airforce Museum in Dayton, Ohio.