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Still, law enforcement and border security are pretty cut and dried. And absent the proper authorities, Americans are expected to merely accept being abused, victimized, mistreated and even killed by radical criminal elements.

Should Americans continue to take that kind of abuse? If our forefathers had done that, the British Union Jack would be flying from Washington to San Francisco instead of the Stars and Stripes.

Exactly!

1 posted on 12/05/2002 11:22:43 PM PST by eldoradude
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To: eldoradude
Yo! Where do I sign?
2 posted on 12/05/2002 11:32:50 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: eldoradude
They are going to be very suprised at how hard the Federal Government who did not have enough agents to enforce the borders comes down on them.

Because open borders and terrorism is part of the agenda, not just part that is being overlooked.

Suddenly they will have plenty of manpower and a very strong lack of tolerance to what Americans want to do vs what illegal aliens want to do.

Hurry up, activate the National Guard for overseas duty, would not want to stop the agenda.
3 posted on 12/05/2002 11:52:49 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: eldoradude
Arizona’s State officials called the citizens willing to defend their nation’s integrity “HATEFUL“!

That means Arizona’s new Democrat Governor Janet Napalitano. And her goon squad of counter American culturists.

Napalitano only won because there were 4 different referendums on the State’s ballot concerning Indian gaming. And almost every one of Arizona's Indians voted. (Arizona has 16 different tribes) And 90% of them voted Democratic.

Napalitano was the liberal leftist lawyer that represented Anita Hill in the congressional hearings when they attempted to destroy Judge Thomas’s career. She is one of those manly women that were so instinctively drawn to Hillary. The type who despise people like Clarence Thomas. A man who was willing to stand up to fight the moral degeneration of our nation. Napalitano of course was one of the click of leftist feminists that created the malicious falsehoods about Thomas.

Napalitano and her leftist goons, care a hundred percent more for illegal aliens than she does American citizens.

Go America beat leftists,

Pliny the younger
4 posted on 12/06/2002 12:15:22 AM PST by Pliney the younger
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To: eldoradude
Bump.
5 posted on 12/06/2002 12:19:10 AM PST by weikel
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To: dansangel; FreedomPoster
'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice

Well I have to agree with this, it's time that the people told the government what they want....

10 posted on 12/06/2002 1:39:19 AM PST by .45MAN
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To: eldoradude
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed - That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. " -- Dec. of Ind.

If this is going on with the consent of the governed, it's not exactly vigilanteism (sp?) is it? :)

12 posted on 12/06/2002 4:14:02 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: Thud
a flaming border war datum ping
13 posted on 12/06/2002 4:24:37 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: eldoradude
Gov.-elect Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, has labeled Simcox's effort vigilantism, and says there is "no room" in Arizona for anyone who takes the law into their own hands.

Expect things in AZ to worsen for the next 4 years when this new governor takes office. I voted for the 'lesser of 2 evils' so am entitled to criticize her(?).

14 posted on 12/06/2002 4:25:37 AM PST by borisbob69
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To: eldoradude
Gov.-elect Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, has labeled Simcox's effort vigilantism, and says there is "no room" in Arizona for anyone who takes the law into their own hands.

So, according to her, there's no room for Americans who want the laws obeyed, but there's plenty of room for millions and millions of illegal invaders.

This is an atrocity.

15 posted on 12/06/2002 4:33:53 AM PST by Godel
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To: mhking; rdb3
good morning, gentle sirs.
a spot of light reading with your cup of joe?
16 posted on 12/06/2002 5:13:51 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: eldoradude
We need to form a citizen's Home Guard to combat terror and crime.
17 posted on 12/06/2002 5:40:44 AM PST by Sparta
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To: eldoradude
Why does officialdom fear it when Americans stand up for themselves? Is it because they fear irrelevance? Do our officials worry that we may find we don't need them – or, at least, as many of them – anymore?

Exactly, full stop. That is all.

Part of the problem isn't with the law enforcers themselves. Politicians adopting self-serving, politically correct policies often tie the hands of those who are charged with keeping the peace. That means that part of the problem also lies with the people who elect those politicians.

Still, law enforcement and border security are pretty cut and dried. And absent the proper authorities, Americans are expected to merely accept being abused, victimized, mistreated and even killed by radical criminal elements.

Again, this exactly hits the nail upon the head.

18 posted on 12/06/2002 5:43:06 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: Free the USA; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector; Ajnin; Fish out of Water; agitator; Tancred; Spiff; ..
ping
20 posted on 12/06/2002 6:29:58 AM PST by madfly
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To: Sabertooth; Spiff; HiJinx; MissAmericanPie; CIBvet; AZHSer; AnnaZ; Mercuria; georgiabelle; ...
ping
21 posted on 12/06/2002 6:30:42 AM PST by madfly
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To: eldoradude
Police responded by saying they would not tolerate "vigilante justice" and would arrest lawbreakers, regardless of which side they're on.

If they are as effective at arresting vigilantes as they are in arresting gangbangers and illegals there shouldn't be too much to worry about.

22 posted on 12/06/2002 7:04:30 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: eldoradude
I have a cousin who owns and lives on a large tract of land close to - but not on - the border with Mexico. We all go there for a periodic family reunion, and when we're wandering around in the brush, I am never without my trusty military-style (yes, "ugly") rifle, not so much for wetbacks, who by and large are harmless, but drug-runners who are armed and will shoot if they see you. Oh, and rattlesnakes, too.
28 posted on 12/06/2002 8:18:45 AM PST by Marauder
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To: B4Ranch
ping
35 posted on 12/06/2002 1:31:06 PM PST by Rytwyng
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