Small aircraft crashes into Federal Reserve Bank building in Miami...

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[SamAdams76]

The proverbial "nothing follows." Just got put up in red on the Drudge site. Please delete this thread if posted elsewhere or if this amounts to nothing.

[Hunble]

Sorry, but the aircraft has already been identified as a Four Winds 192.

www.fourwindsaircraft.com

I never said or implied that it was a Piper aircraft. Just looking at the crash images told me that is was not a Piper, since the horizontal stabilizer was different.

[FreeTally]

From AP:

But Jeff Rahm, president of Four Winds Aircraft in New Smyrna Beach, said Friday that two of the company's employees died in the crash.

Rick Grannis, a salesman and instructor for the firm, was the pilot, and sales manager Garry Williams was the passenger, Rahm said.

"We have no answers," Rahm said. "There was an inflight engine fire and that's all we're able to tell at this time. ... The plane itself was fine, but what engine problems they had, we don't know."

Grannis and Williams flew to Marathon Airport on Thursday afternoon to attend a Christmas party of the Young Eagles flying club, said club president Ed Waldorf. They had asked to show the prototype plane to the group and gave several club members rides in the plane, Waldorf said.

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Two employees, not muslim, had been given flights all day, engine fire before crash.

Take off your tinfoil people.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[TBall]

Maybe the plane was flown by remote control into the building?

[robertpaulsen]

Is that why they call it "final approach"?

[RonDog]

See also:

Two Killed As Small Plane Hits Miami Federal Bank
[pilot and passenger identified: NON-muslim?]
Associated Press (via Yahoo! News) ^ | December 6, 2002 | WJXT News4Jax.com - AP
Posted on 12/06/2002 6:46 AM PST by RonDog

Two Killed As Small Plane Hits Miami Federal Bank

A employees [sic] of an New Smyrna Beach aircraft company were killed when their small plane crashed into the Federal Reserve (news - web sites) Building in Miami Thursday night.

One body was found in the wreckage, and a second victim was found on a neaby golf course about 6 a.m. Friday morning.

As the plane struck the building west of the Miami International Airport about 9 p.m., as more than 100 employees were inside the building celebrating a holiday party.

Officials say the aircraft clipped the building, then burst into flames.

"The first fire rescue units responded within three minutes. When they got here they found on the east side of the Federal Reserve Bank here in Miami, a small plane fully engulfed," said Miami Fire Dept. Chief Luis Fernandez.

"We got out the building as fast as we could," said one employee.

"It's scary," said another.

No one inside the building was hurt.

Just a few hours after the crash, crews were using heavy equipment to remove the wreckage of the single-engine experimental aircraft, an American flag emblazoned on its tail.

Four Winds Aircraft president Jeff Rahm of New Smyrna Beach said two of the company's employees died in the crash. He says Rick Grannis, who was a salesman and instructor for the firm, was the pilot. Sales manager Garry Williams was the passenger.

Young Eagles Flying Club president Ed Waldorf said the two men flew to the Marathon Airport Thursday to attend a Christmas party for his group.

The National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) is investigating the cause of the crash.

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Small aircraft crashes into Federal Reserve Bank building in Miami...
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Posted on 12/05/2002 6:59 PM PST by SamAdams76

Small Plane Hits Miami Bank, Pilot Dies
Yahoo! News - AP ^ | 12/6/2002 | By CORALIE CARLSON
Posted on 12/05/2002 10:53 PM PST by Bobby777

MIAMI (AP) - A small plane crashed into the Federal Reserve (news - web sites) Bank Building during a holiday party on Thursday night, killing the pilot, authorities said. No one inside the building was injured.

"It appears to be an accident," said Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites) spokeswoman Laura Brown in Washington...more

1 posted on 12/06/2002 6:46 AM PST by RonDog
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"...Four Winds Aircraft president Jeff Rahm of New Smyrna Beach said two of the company's employees died in the crash. He says Rick Grannis, who was a salesman and instructor for the firm, was the pilot. Sales manager Garry Williams was the passenger..."

O.K., FReepers.

WHO ARE THESE GUYS?

Do they have any terrorist connections?

2 posted on 12/06/2002 6:50 AM PST by RonDog

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[CindyDawg]

Take off your tinfoil people

Well, I really didn't have any on, BUT I do keep the stuff in a box next to my computer. (Just in case I need it). LOL CD

[Hunble]

Thanks for the update FreeTally.

This is an outstanding aircraft, and I hope that the company will not be harmed because of this accident.

[Hunble]

Some people today are using that Christmas tree tinsel in way that were never intended.

As with any aircraft accident, I pay attention.

What caused this, and how can I prevent it from happening to me?

But yes, an engine fire while you are in the air is extremely dangerous. Your only option is to slip the aircraft and find a landing spot ASAP.

[Fred Mertz]

One body was found in the wreckage, and a second victim was found on a neaby golf course about 6 a.m. Friday morning.

Did the passenger leap from the aircraft? I'm keeping my tinfoil on for the time being.

[Hunble]

Ok, if you are in a burning aircraft, you have two options:

1) Jump out and go splat.

2) Stay in the aircraft and burn.

Did you ever watch the people who jumped from the WTC?

[eno_]

With a fire on board it would sure explain why the pilot could not manage to avoid a building when he was just across the street from a large area of golf courses. And it would explain the other occupant of the plane making a desperate jump (if that is how he ended up on the golf course). Putting a small plane down on a fairway is very survivable. Something had to account for the odd outcome.

[Fred Mertz]

Officials say the aircraft clipped the building, then burst into flames.

Are we reading the same articles?

[Hunble]

Pilot realizes that he has an engine fire.

Pilot attempts to land on the golf course.

Smoke from the engine fire totally obscures the windshield, and the pilot is flying blind.

Passenger gets burned and jumps from the aircraft.

Pilot is doing his absolute best to land safely, but because of the smoke and fire inside of the aircraft, it becomes impossible.

Aircraft hits the building.

[Hunble]

Are we reading the same articles?

Yes, we are reading the same article.

In a high wing aircraft, the fuel tanks are in the wings.

Once the aircraft hit the building, the gasoline is spilled from the wing and you have a major fire.

[Fred Mertz]

"The first fire rescue units responded within three minutes. When they got here they found on the east side of the Federal Reserve Bank here in Miami, a small plane fully engulfed," said Miami Fire Dept. Chief Luis Fernandez.

Okay, where's the nearby golf course?

[Hunble]

Somebody last night, who lives in the area did post a map quest image of the area.

Sorry, I can not remember the Freeper who posted the map.

Okay, where's the nearby golf course?

Uh, perhaps the golf course that they found the other body in? LOL

[Hunble]

Actually, my only question is this:

Why did the pilot not also jump?

[Moonman62]

The Doral Country Club is right across the street. There are four golf courses on the property, except it would be almost impossible to make a landing there at night.