[Free the USA]

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[Rocksalt]

WOD ping

[lelio]

I'm speachless. Flash bang grenades and an armored vehicle moving down the screen to bust some people with pot residue in pipes? I suppose they have to justify their existance somehow.

[billybudd]

Ah yes, those pot smokers are a national security threat, but the illegals crossing the border can just come on through and we'll even give them amnesty. WOD = tyranny! The American founders would have revolted at this cr*p.

[JPJones]

"We rely on the element of surprise and speed,"

Kind of like the Spanish Inquisition.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

"As far as drug investigations go, some are more fruitful than others," Turner said.

And some are more justified than others.

[JPJones]

The tactics used by most agencies have been upheld in court, he said.

Well then, it must be ok. (/sarcasm)

[yooper]

If I was the Judge that authorized this search warrant, someone's ass would be in a sling. Where is the probable cause?

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

"Police pulled four people - including a nude woman and another woman wearing only underpants and a T-shirt..."

Caption this photograph? Where's the pictures?

[Ford Fairlane]

police discovered several high-powered fans, fluorescent lights, plastic sheeting, timers, potting soil, fertilizer, plant food, sandwich bags, a scale, 24 electrical outlets and a shop vacuum that contained a trace of marijuana leaves

I have all of this stuff in my barn, (yes, probably even the trace of marijuana, the stuff grows wild in my pasture), I sure hope they dont come to bust my (totally legal) nursery.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Inside the houses, police discovered several high-powered fans, fluorescent lights, plastic sheeting, timers, potting soil, fertilizer, plant food, sandwich bags, a scale, 24 electrical outlets and a shop vacuum that contained a trace of marijuana leaves, according to the affidavit filed in support of the search warrant

Whoah, is this first the punishment then the trial? What they found or didn't find through the search is not relevant to the warrant.

[Oztrich Boy]

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[coloradan]

The fact that police found no marijuana plants or weapons has only angered neighbors further.

Thus the thin line between the War On (some) Drugs and the War On Guns is further blurred.

Suppose they had found weapons: In the absence of pot plants, gun ownership is legal and would form no legal basis for the given police action nor any after the fact justification for the raid, contrary to the implication made by the article.

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[NukeMan]

"If it was a meth lab there, if it was the Hells Angels, you probably wouldn't hear any qualms about the number of officers we had there."

Well, it wasn't a meth lab there, and they weren't Hell's Angels. Didn't anyone do their due diligence on this bust?

[Nuke'm Glowing]

I'm so sick and tired of these assaults on the Gestapo and their tactics. I mean, that wouldn't be civilized to just knock on the door, show the warrant and step inside. Like the good old days. Of course, if this were one of those homes where some GOP loving right wing conspiracy loving gun nut lived, of course, I could understand why they would use the armored car or at least an M-60 tank.

</sarcasm off

[Jonathon Spectre]

And although police sympathize with residents who have complained that the Fifth Avenue (drug) raid resembled a military invasion, they aren't willing to sacrifice officer safety to stave off criticism, he said.

"We rely on the element of surprise and speed," Swenson said. "The third element is an overwhelming display of force when you come through the door."

Gunslinger, can you guess what I'm thinking? It has to do with the "you"...

[thepitts]

"I call it a terrorist act because it terrorized the neighborhood.

A terrorist act, I agree, but will they be brought to justice?

[Lloyd227]

"Police defend their actions "

Well of course they do, don't be rediculous! :-)

[GovernmentShrinker]

Sometimes, these military-style raids are the only way to protect the safety of the law enforcement officers, but this

We don't know who we're dealing with when we go through the door."

is a problem. In the type of setting described (neighborhood of single family homes) they should know exactly who's inside the house, and a good deal about each person as well. Sounds as of they simply favor aggressive assault over skilled surveillance and intelligence work. In other types of settings, such as huge public housing apartment buildings, or even smaller apartment buildings, there is no way to conduct thorough surveillance without arousing suspicion amoung the targets and/or their questionable neighbors. Maybe they're being given funding for the military assault equipment, but not for high-tech surveillance equipment. Anybody have any solid info on that angle?