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Child removed from family because she was loved too much
WTSP Channel 10, Tampa ^ | 12-05-02 | WTSP

Posted on 12/05/2002 4:50:17 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing

Child removed from family because she was loved too much

An aunt and uncle have lost their fight to keep custody of a child who's almost two years old.

She was removed from her mother, placed in foster care and then placed with the aunt and uncle.

Now, she's going back to foster care because of what the aunt and uncle did, they loved her too much.

Judge Frank Gomez says the little girl’s aunt and uncle loved the two-year-old too much and did not belong with the family.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: children; cpswatch; facist; florida
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
WTF is going on here? Loved her too much?

Be well, be armed, you may be next.
81 posted on 12/06/2002 5:07:40 PM PST by lodwick
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Something has to be done about abusive biological parents, and something has to be done about a child protection racket in government that's out of control.

Maybe the solution would be a direct public election of a board of commissioners to oversee such custody decisions. I don't have much respect for the wisdom of the American Voter but he's at least half-human, on average, and I don't always think that about some of the protected-by-obscurity judges who render decisions like this.

82 posted on 12/06/2002 5:19:44 PM PST by 537 Votes
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To: another cricket
And much to my shock, the DCF actually endorsed the aunt and uncle taking custody of the child. Jeb Bush was somewhat pissed when he was asked about this and I'm sure we'll be hearing more from our guv....
83 posted on 12/06/2002 5:43:14 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"I don't know any parent who wouldn't prefer to remain in thier own home, with their children, with a couple of discreet cameras, AFTER a pre-trial hearing. It would be nice if a full-blown trial could start an hour after police respond to a child abuse call, and find what they believe to be significant evidence of serious abuse -- but that's not reality."

Well, I am with you on speeding up the process...so we as a society, can begin to put an end to the horribly cruel methods DCF and others utilize when removing a child from their home. And I think this can be done, via pagers, cell phones and other devices that would enable access to judges even when they are on the golf course. I mean, we page physicians 24/7, right?

84 posted on 12/06/2002 5:43:59 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: lodwick
That is exactly the reason the court took the child away. Welcome to our little corner of insanity. And I used to joke about NY and Commiefornia.
85 posted on 12/06/2002 5:44:09 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: 537 Votes
The problem with your solution is that it would take another constitutional amendment. We've already put our state about $50 billion in the hole for the next 10 years with these referendums. I'm scared as hell to see what's coming up in two years, much less adding anything else to our state constitution.
86 posted on 12/06/2002 5:45:44 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
And much to my shock, the DCF actually endorsed the aunt and uncle taking custody of the child.

Oh there are some good ones out there. You just hear more about the bad ones. Glad to see Jeb is taking an interest in the case. Maybe it can be straightened out quickly. I hope so, with kids every day really does count.

a.cricket

88 posted on 12/06/2002 6:05:38 PM PST by another cricket
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To: Poohbah; Nuke'm Glowing
Please note that the complaint is that the child is bonding with the non-parental custodians... Is Nuke 'em Glowing advocating permanently removing the child from the birth mother? THAT would be novel...

I don't know about you but, when I was growing up, I bonded to my mother, my father, two sets of grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins and my aunt's pet dog.

A child bonds to those that love him/her be it a parent, grandparent, other relatives, family firends or a Cocker Spaniel. There is no biological limit to the human power to love.

If judges are striving to have children brought up by adults who remain unloving, they may as well contract out foster care to Romanian orphanages. Such an upbringing only produces psychologically messed up teenagers and adults.

If the mother cannot get the child to bond with her, then maybe the mother should be examining how she is interacting with the child.....if she is interacting with the child at all.

89 posted on 12/06/2002 6:08:23 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"When asked about it today, Jeb said if true, that it was absurd that you can "never give a 17 month old child too much love". Wow, keep it pouring on folks."

Thank God for JEB! I am saying a prayer for him and his family before I push the post button. I cannot express how comforting it is, knowing that my governor is a caring, loving human being. God bless you Governor, sir. :)

But Nuke'm...where did you hear that JEB is already looking into this for this little girl? Was JEB on tv tonight?

90 posted on 12/06/2002 6:09:19 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: Motherbear
IT is virtually impossible to "smother" a two year old.

In a normal environment I would say you are correct. But.. You would not say that if you lived apart from your daughter and she was continually told that you were bad and that nobody could love her like the temporary parents do. Not allowing or encouraging a two year old's love for her mother is smothering a two year old.

I must admit that this needs to be resolved between the mother and her demons. I assumed that she was coming out of the program all cleaned up and was ready to take on her role in her daughter's life. BUT ... On the video I MAY have heard that it would take another year. If that's the case forget it, terminate parental rights and place the child in a loving home.

92 posted on 12/06/2002 6:33:08 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Polybius
Based on the most recent news, it sounds like the biological mother bonded one child into the grave...
93 posted on 12/06/2002 7:10:13 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Yes. Channel 10's reporter who broke this story asked Jeb about this today. He was shocked and couldn't believe it at first then when he was told more, he got somewhat pissed.
94 posted on 12/06/2002 7:11:43 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: RGSpincich
Read post 75...more news about the biological mother. I doubt that she'll be given custody any time soon.
95 posted on 12/06/2002 7:13:12 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
If you have a CBS affiliate down there which sometimes shares resources with our WTSP Channel 10, I'm sure they will show a snipit of this fiasco. It's getting more and more interesting by the day...
96 posted on 12/06/2002 7:14:08 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
I doubt that she'll be given custody any time soon.

I read your post and watched the new video. The circumstances behind the alleged death of the alleged twin are too vague. The court has the information. Custody by the mother is still the goal of the court or the "bonding" issue would not have been a factor in removing the girl from the aunt and uncle. The mother was not charged with a crime in relation to the alleged death of the other child was she? The Goins (aunt and uncle) blamed her in some degree but did the police or social services blame her?

So it was the Goins that initiated the action to have the child removed from the mother in the first place. I would like to know more about them, their relationship to the mother and the original incident that started all of this. Hopefully a more objective reporter will get involved.

98 posted on 12/06/2002 9:44:14 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
I would be very grateful if you would post a link to the latest footage. So far, I haven't been able to locate it, but will keep searching... Thanks for the updates! :)
99 posted on 12/07/2002 5:42:50 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Sorry to keep bugging for more information about JEB, but can you tell me where the reporter was able to catch up to JEB yesterday to ask him about this case? Pretty please? :)
100 posted on 12/07/2002 5:45:38 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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