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Scientific Breakthrough Liberates Energy Users from Fossil Fuel Dependence
Genesis World Energy ^ | 12/05/2002

Posted on 12/05/2002 4:19:24 PM PST by rumrunner

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To: VadeRetro
Jazzy logo, so you know they're legit. You don't suppose they own any of those buildings, do you?

Just the energy lighting them up.

Now, I'm off to finish my licensing application...




41 posted on 12/05/2002 6:04:05 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: PatrickHenry
A little bit fuzzy on the credentials of this group. Any mention of patents?

Patients.

You know, that kind of visionary.




42 posted on 12/05/2002 6:05:29 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
This is most discouraging. All these years, I've been toiling in obscurity in my attic, constructing my perpetual motion machine. I'd hate to think I've been scooped, just when I'm on the verge of a breakthrough.
43 posted on 12/05/2002 6:08:54 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Sabertooth
I'm sure that they mean that they've created this:


44 posted on 12/05/2002 6:17:47 PM PST by Johnny Gage
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45 posted on 12/05/2002 6:18:19 PM PST by Bob J
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To: VadeRetro
it uses a catalyst to make the hydrogen and oxygen in the water just pop unstuck with almost no energy

Catalyst - A substance, usually used in small amounts relative to the reactants, that modifies and increases the rate of a reaction without being consumed in the process

Seperating water into hydrogen and oxygen is an Endothermic reaction (a reaction that absorbs energy). The presence of a catalyst would only increase the reaction rate, not lower the energy required.

46 posted on 12/05/2002 6:21:36 PM PST by Badger1
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To: Clemenza; PARodrig; rmlew; Yehuda; RaceBannon
BS bump
47 posted on 12/05/2002 6:26:21 PM PST by Cacique
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To: rumrunner
ummmm.....

When's the water rationing going to start?
48 posted on 12/05/2002 6:30:47 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: rumrunner
An energy generating device that will allow you to get energy for nothing. This has the smell of snake oil to me.
49 posted on 12/05/2002 6:31:26 PM PST by desertcry
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To: Badger1
Seperating water into hydrogen and oxygen is an Endothermic reaction (a reaction that absorbs energy). The presence of a catalyst would only increase the reaction rate, not lower the energy required.

That would explain why everybody thought this stuff was impossible until now. </sarcasm>

50 posted on 12/05/2002 6:33:07 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Cicero
If only it worked, here's a paragraph that should delight Freepers:

Read it carefully, it looks as if it's designed to appeal to the Ralph Nader nutz.

51 posted on 12/05/2002 6:35:27 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: VadeRetro
It's a wonder nobody's ever thought of using a catalyst before. It's a wonder nobody ever invented a catalyst to put gasoline back together in your car.

LOL! Maybe them there catalysts would let us use water in the gas tank to make our automobiles mobile.

I remember using the water hose to fill the gas tank on my dad's '28 Chevvy way back there. Dad wasn't too happy with me as a result. Little did he realize that I was simply ahead of my time.

And doggone it, those of us who labored in the petroleum industry didn't realize that the catalytic crackers we used in formulating gasoline could have been put to better use cracking water.

Ah well, live and learn.

52 posted on 12/05/2002 6:44:16 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Badger1
only fusion "creates" energy
53 posted on 12/05/2002 6:47:06 PM PST by Optimist
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To: rumrunner
Scientific Breakthrough Liberates Energy Users from Fossil Fuel Dependence

First off, we have to get off this concept that carbon-based fuels were a product of dinosaurs ...

NO OTHER compounds or minerals do we contribute to long-gone species or any sort of organic matter.

(see: "The Deep Hot Biosphere" by Thomas Gold)

54 posted on 12/05/2002 6:54:50 PM PST by _Jim
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To: PatrickHenry
A little bit fuzzy on the credentials of this group. Any mention of patents? Doesn't matter. Sounds good to me. I'm ready to invest my life savings.

As soon as I get my millions from that nice widow lady over in Nigeria, count me in - big time. :=)

55 posted on 12/05/2002 6:56:02 PM PST by Bob
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To: Ole Okie
I remember using the water hose to fill the gas tank on my dad's '28 Chevvy way back there.

Never tried that. Does it work as well as sugar?

56 posted on 12/05/2002 7:02:44 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: slimer
Apparently the device requires a fuel source - gas

Actually it IS the water that is the primary ingredient in the success of this product. I expect that the requirement will be to use only one brand:

EVIAN | naive

57 posted on 12/05/2002 7:04:12 PM PST by Optimist
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To: Brett66
Please review the laws of physiscs.
Assuming perfect efficieny (an impossibility) this process would simply produce no energy. In reality splitting water and then burning hydrogen would take energy.
Now these catalysts might make the loop more efficient, but we are still dealing with a net loss.
58 posted on 12/05/2002 7:27:10 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Ole Okie
"LOL! Maybe them there catalysts would let us use water in the gas tank to make our automobiles mobile."

Car Runs On Water
This should work. It uses aluminum as its energy source, no miracle, but interesting concept.

59 posted on 12/05/2002 8:27:15 PM PST by HangThemHigh
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To: Badger1
This device seems to violate that law.

Dosen't matter. The Democrats are heading up this project.

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably isn't.

60 posted on 12/05/2002 8:47:52 PM PST by oyez
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