GEORGE W. BUSH, LIBERAL

yahoo ^ | Tue Dec 3, 2002 | Ted Rall

[Texasforever]

If the chap toned it down a bit, the piece might be somewhat effective. I don't know why these Paleos have such a love of shrill rhetoric. I guess no one has told them that it doesn't work.

Ted Rall is a flaming liberal but PJB could and has written the same article several times. LOL

[Zack Nguyen]

Conservative Republicans fought the right of workers to join unions, of blacks to vote and of the poor to pull themselves out of poverty.

What slanderous stupidity is this?

[Torie]

The odd thing about Paleos is that they are liberal left where I am to the right, and they are to the right where I am to the left. It is almost as if they figured out what my opinions were, and took the opposite side on almost every issue. It is all very curious.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

Like it or not, no matter who is seated President of the United States; the directives in the homeland security bill has US living pretty close to (if not) a police state in the event of a future terror attack from OBL operatives living on our very own soil.

[Texasforever]

It's a conspiracy I tells ya.

[Torie]

The black voting thing is odd. I guess the chap didn't read Robert Caro's latest book.

[RedWing9]

Dittos, I stopped at the same thing. Obviously his rant is full of more than one lie.

[mombonn]

Let's see, Nancy Pelosi denies being a LIBERAL because it's an unbecoming title.

What better to smear President Bush?

[dead]

Bush's "tax cut" is a brazen lie--it's merely a tax shift, from the rich (who pay most of their taxes to the feds) to the middle-class, whose tiny federal cut will be more than erased by a rise in state and local taxes.

So Bush's tax cuts are responsible for us paying more in taxes? Using his convoluted logic, Bush could just raise taxes through the roof so we don't have to pay any taxes ever again.

Liberal idiot.

[Senator Pardek]

To paraphrase my cousin Naczeslaw, a paleoconservative is a populist who wants low taxes for all, and a populist is a socialist who goes to church on Sundays.

[Torie]

Well except this one wants to soak the rich, and soak the poor through higher prices from Draconian import duties to protect inefficient industries. Perhaps the guy hates the idea of folks having disposable income or something. The perfect society is the man in the gray flannel suit, and the folks with blue collars working for one company for life.

[afraid]

As a Texan i can say that the state is more conservative now than ever. Bush was a fine governor. Never heard about him in the news or saw him on tv, kept a low profile. He was kind of a pansy when he came to my city when it flooded one year though, San Antonio . Flew around in a helicopter for 30 minutes and called FEMA. He was supposed to ride in a car to the sites, but was worried about the danger. Made him look like a high class prick that didnt want to get his loafers wet. That did not go down to well, the local radio hosts a field day with it, and they are all conservatives. 1998 i think it was.

[Torie]

You don't think the estate tax is the Maginot Line that keeps regressive state and local taxes down (because the money is all shipped to the states), except in NY and California of course, which are shining polities on the hill that know how to extract revenue from the rich, in part because the places have unique advantages that make it more difficult for folks to decamp? What's wrong with you?

[Senator Pardek]

...soak the poor through higher prices from Draconian import duties to protect inefficient industries.

Since it's a safe bet that Rall does not go to church, it means he's a Socialist instead of a Populist.

If he found God tomorrow but kept his political views, he'd be a Populist, of course.

[American Soldier]

Conservative Republicans fought the right of workers to join unions, of blacks to vote and of the poor to pull themselves out of poverty. Justice for the disenfranchised requires change and change is always dangerous.

Weren't all of the most virulent racists Democrats??? That was generally the Klan's party, wasn't it?

Also -- When the hell did Republicans oppose the right of blacks to vote? Even during the times of school segregation, while there may have been intimidation at the polls, I am aware of nowhere that blacks were banned from voting. That's not what the freedom rides were about - they were about whites showing solidarity with blacks and saying they were willing to stand beside them.

The only Democrat who really did anything for civil rights was Harry Truman (NOT really a liberal Democrat) when he ordered racial integration in the armed forces (over the objection of Eisenhower, who was NOT really a conservative Republican. Certainly Republicans have lagged on issues before, e.g. school segregation, but that was a geographic issue -- whites up north generally supported integration, white down south did not. It wasn't the sort of partisan issue they try to make it out to be -- the GOP was not that secure in the South at that time.

[dead]

If we just raise the estate tax to 100% and put a 2000% tax on luxury yachts over $200,000, even our homeless would be living in deeeeeelux apartments in the sky-i-i-i.

Liberals have such a stellar grasp of economics.

[x]

Interesting thesis. Where he goes wrong is that Eisenhower and Nixon weren't particularly conservative Republicans. They were the internationalist, interventionist, big government, high-spending wing of the party of their day. In the eyes of liberals, they were by no means liberal or "progressive," but they weren't really accepted by conservatives as being wholly in their camp.

G.W. Bush follows the tradition of Eisenhower and Nixon, rather than those of Taft and Bricker or of Reagan and Goldwater. He's the latest in a line from Dewey to Eisenhower to Nixon to his father. Where the current President differs from past Republicans is that today's unilateralism doesn't fit in with either the isolationism or the internationalism of previous generations.

[Torie]

The deal now is all about choosing the modalities as to how the money is spent, and which intermediaries will lose power, and which will gain, and whether the intermediaries in general will wane in importance. High spending is with us forever. Get used to it.

[hinckley buzzard]

"Republicans have lagged on issues before, e.g. school desegregation..."

Perhaps you are not aware that when segregation was an issue, primarilly in the South, The "Solid South" was solid democrat. Ditto for Northern cities where other de-seg battles were pitched. Mostly Rat mayors and councils.

The Southern governors who resisted integration were all demo-rat. The Civil Rights and Voting Rights Bills were passed with large Republican majorities, and a minimum of demo-rats.

[Tempest]

This was the most CRAPTASTIC! Pile of dribble, I've read in a long time.