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To: dirtboy
I took your numbers as data for a statistical model in a program called JMP. I had a very interesting result: There was no statistically significant relationship between the ownership of guns (not having the ownership rate, I entered the states as catagorical, yes or no on gun ownership), but there was a very high corrolation between murder rate and the minority population. I wish I could show the model profiler and leverage plots here.

Can anyone get me more complete data on this including the actual ownership rates and other demographic factors? I would love to stick it into the program to see how this result holds up.
108 posted on 12/04/2002 2:17:55 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
JMP is a good program for exploring that kind of relationship:

To be accurate:

You GOT to get the other "gun-controlled" states included: excluding NYC (separate from NY state!), DC, Atlanta (separate and with VERY DIFFERENT crimes stats from the rest of GA!), Los Angeles and SFO - again very different from CA at large), DC, Virgina - why "West Virgina?) throws the entire analysis into question.

its like taking a census to skipping every house that more than 2 cars in the family ... You're going to get different results. Very different results, which we (rightly) feel is the entire purpose of the study.

I'd rather see, BY COUNTY, for every county in the US, by rates-of-"illegal gun-murders + gun-criminal assaults" only (using that term deliberately - here, a weapon used in self-defense is included as a "gun homicide!)...

What is relationship between gun murders+assaults/100,000 and race?

What is the relationship between gun murders+assaults/100,000 and income?

What is the relationship between gun-murders+assaults/100,000 and LEGAL gun ownership/100,000?

Those answers would actually tell you something. (You will find crimes causes increased murders and assaults! Duh...)

Selecting only these states, including ALL gun-related deaths instead of "gun-murders + gun-criminal assaults"
137 posted on 12/04/2002 6:28:57 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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