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To: Fintan
Dumb move. Bad taste.

I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

4 posted on 12/04/2002 3:52:36 AM PST by JimVT
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To: JimVT
>>I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

Of course, the great majority of Muslims are peaceful -- so what?

10 posted on 12/04/2002 4:04:41 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: JimVT
Dumb move. Bad taste.

I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

The lack of outrage within Islam over their fundamentalists lack of human rights speaks for Muslim's intolerance all by itself. The cartoon accurately reflects this realility. The cartoon is objective. Hiding behind a charade that Islam is the Religion of Peace is a lie that belongs in Muslim countries, not in America.

11 posted on 12/04/2002 4:06:06 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: JimVT
...but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

First, many people do not consider Islam a religion so much as a mental illness. And what is the difference between a fanatic and a nonfanatic in Islam?

17 posted on 12/04/2002 4:17:03 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: JimVT
In this case, though, they aren't saying that all Islam is "terroristic," a notion that I also dismiss.

They are saying that Islam TOLERATES the radicals in its midst, and I think you have to say there's something to that.

Not all Muslims are radical Islamists. And there are Muslim countries that aren't dismissive of women's rights.

But countries such as Saudi Arabia--the seat of Wahhabism--DO coddle terrorists and DO make life difficult for women.

I think it interesting whenever charges such as these are leveled that the Muslims here in the states, instead of admitting there's some justification, immediately begin to cry about "anti-Muslim activity" encouraged and fomented by this sort of rhetoric, when the facts don't support the contention that this is happening.

Violence against Muslims is about the same now as it was before 9/11. We are a religiously tolerant people who typically don't go in for this sort of thing. Methinks they doth protest too much.

21 posted on 12/04/2002 4:23:56 AM PST by Illbay
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To: JimVT
I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

I do hope that when finally the lights come on, somebody's home.
In the meantime, just put some ice on it.

26 posted on 12/04/2002 4:30:19 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: JimVT
I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

Yes but a religion that cannot police its fanatics should not complain when they get most of the attention.

41 posted on 12/04/2002 4:48:38 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: JimVT
"Dumb move. Bad taste. I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics."

In the case of Islam, the bad elements FAR outweigh whatever miniscule amount of good there may be!

47 posted on 12/04/2002 5:03:29 AM PST by Destructor
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To: JimVT
Dumb move. Bad taste. I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

Jim,

These folks want to put us out of business. You can't fight part of them and not take them all on. The West needs to figure out if it wants to survive or give up. Unless we win completly our grandchildren will be praying to Mecca five times a day before this century is over.

65 posted on 12/04/2002 5:57:04 AM PST by Flint
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To: JimVT
They probably have issued a world "hit" ( I forget what hey call it) against the cartoonist. How dare he insult a religion whose majority cannot not find the moral fibre to condemn murdering non-combatants? Killing a soldier in battle is one thing, murdering civilians is quite another.

FReegards
75 posted on 12/04/2002 6:17:03 AM PST by poet
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To: JimVT
I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion . . .

On the whole the religion is contemptible even if most Muslims themselves are peaceable, good people. They are peaceable and good despite their religion--not because of it. I will continue to treat individual Muslims with kindness and respect even as I call their relgion what it is: the dark work of a violent madman and liar.

78 posted on 12/04/2002 6:22:05 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: JimVT
Jim, if Muslims were to seize control of this country (yes, I know, far-fetched but let's just assume for the sake of argument) those supposedly "peace-loving" Muslims living next door to you for the past 15 years would suddenly be confronted with the choice of joining the American Patriot underground to fight the Muslim terrorists and regain our country, or join the Muslim terrorists and assist them in executing you and your family in the street in front of your house.

Now if you think for even one microsecond that any so called "peace-loving" Muslim in this country wouldn't pull the trigger you are sadly mistaken. Islam is the enemy. This war is just beginning. It may last for hundreds or thousands of years if we are lucky enough to survive that long. It may last forever which mean eternal vigilance against the religion of "peace".

83 posted on 12/04/2002 6:33:04 AM PST by Doc Savage
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To: JimVT
I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

I guess it is okay that they can condemn every other religion.(infidels=non-Muslim)

94 posted on 12/04/2002 6:57:39 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: JimVT
I'm no fan of Islam but we shouldn't condemn an entire religion for the faults of the fanatics.

But whenever I hear "moderate Muslims" bring up lots of moral equivalency arguments as
caveats to their "condeming terrorism" spiels...
well, I guess I'm just become an intolerant type since 9-11.

Mostly by listening to moderate Muslims on talk radio here in...Los Angeles.
95 posted on 12/04/2002 7:03:55 AM PST by VOA
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To: JimVT
The ENTIRE religion IS fanatics. That's why the "moderates" in Islam don't speak out against the "fanatics". There are no moderates. Just quiet fanatics.
99 posted on 12/04/2002 7:12:19 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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