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Court Orders Municipality To Pay Over $39,000 in Michigan Pro-Life Case
The Thomas More Law Center ^ | 12/03/02 | Thomas More Law Center

Posted on 12/03/2002 1:28:13 PM PST by That Subliminal Kid

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To: Notwithstanding
Well, actually, two human lives are at risk. The perspective has to do with 'compelling interest'. I won't argue it further with you. I believe a woman should have the right to support her own life by choosing to abort under such dire circumstances. I do not favor serial killing for convenience sake.
61 posted on 12/03/2002 3:18:17 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Ping
62 posted on 12/03/2002 3:19:32 PM PST by Jael
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To: Notwithstanding
I'll share this with you because of your compassion.

When my wife became pregnant while having a Dalcon Shield in her uterus, the likely outcome would have been her painful death. To remove the IUD required a D&C because it was imbedded in the wall of her uterus. The technology didn't exist to do micro-surgery then, but I wouldn't have chosen such even if it were, because my son could have lost his mother. You can make of that what you will, but I'm at peace with the issues. My son grew up to be a wonderful man and father in his own right because he had his wonderful mother throughout his formative years.

63 posted on 12/03/2002 3:22:44 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
We don't support our own life by directly killing an innocent other. We can try to remove the child prematurely without TRYING to kill it directly.

The difference is that we can't knowingly kill innocent people directly. To do so is to deny them their human dignity and rights.

I am glad you are against wholesale slaughter for convenience sake, and that you realize that "life of the mother" is a different animal.

The principle at stake is our human dignity, however. If the dignity of some people is ignored or denied, then it is only a matter of time before such denial expands to other classes of people. I hope you can see the point I make even if you do not concede that point en toto.
64 posted on 12/03/2002 3:23:23 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Mr. Lucky
One of the differences between these guys and Judicial Watch is that these guys actually win cases.

Another difference is that they don't continually issue self-serving press releases.

</ larry klayman>

65 posted on 12/03/2002 3:25:10 PM PST by mombonn
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To: Polycarp
This is wonderful news. Could the tide be turning?

People have to be made aware what a horror the brutal murder of a baby is.

It’s too bad that German Jews didn’t have folks like this to tell their story in the early ‘40s.
66 posted on 12/03/2002 3:25:32 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: Guy Angelito
I am pro-life so long as mom's life is not in danger. If mom's life is in danger, all bets are off.
68 posted on 12/03/2002 3:29:51 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"You enjoy stealing money from the residents of this town, don't you?"

It was the thugs with the badges that gave away the citizens money by acting unconstitutionally.

69 posted on 12/03/2002 3:30:30 PM PST by George from New England
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To: MHGinTN
1. Sad story - thanks for the candor.

2. Evidence that birth control is risky.

3. You have one more child in your family that no one has the privilege of knowing - hope you meet him/her some day.

4. Since the surgery was to remove the IUD, the direct intent was not to kill the child. The child's death was a likely but undesired side effect. (Just as removing the ectoptic tube is different than killing the child inside the tube and removing him/her so that the tube can be saved).
70 posted on 12/03/2002 3:31:39 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
One more thing: when we chose to use an IUD, I/we didn't realize that it is merely the earliest form of in situ abortifacient devices. I don't condone the use of IUD's either, now.
71 posted on 12/03/2002 3:36:28 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Pro-Life bump!
72 posted on 12/03/2002 4:30:29 PM PST by k2blader
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To: k2blader
Another pro-life bump!
73 posted on 12/03/2002 4:38:39 PM PST by scripter
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To: Bella_Bru
Do you think a woman with an ectopic should be told, "Screw your life! We are going to take a chance that at least the child makes it"?

The child is going to die. It can't survive. The woman will die too without sugery.

74 posted on 12/03/2002 4:47:30 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: anniegetyourgun
So why did she deceive so many people in MI?
75 posted on 12/03/2002 4:59:07 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"You enjoy stealing money from the residents of this town, don't you?"

If I was one of the plainiffs, I would make the financial hit even worse by suing each police officer involved in the incident.

Here is the basis for the suit and the reason I would win:

"Hafer v. Melo, 502 U.S. 21 (1991) — State officers may be held personally liable for damages based upon actions taken in their official capacities."

76 posted on 12/03/2002 5:14:55 PM PST by tahiti
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; SuziQ
One of the problems of modern society is that people never see the results of their actions. Watch war movies, people grab a part of their bodies and fall dead on the beach.

The viewers miss the exposed bones and bowels, shredded flesh, small unidentified chunks of meat, Brains, and blood by the gallon, that is the reality of war. These signs are an introduction to reality, are you afraid of that?

77 posted on 12/03/2002 5:24:09 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Free speech bump!
78 posted on 12/03/2002 5:46:48 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
A couple of years ago, I was at a parade. The Planned Parenthood low-lifes were in the parade waving their murder slogans. As they passed by, both my wife and I stepped off the curb and shouted BABY MURDERERS at the top of our lungs.

Some big-butt bozo jumped up in my face and started slobbering about kicking my a** if I shouted it again. So I
shouted BABY KILLER even louder and you know what he did???

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...The truth is hard to swallow isn't it?
79 posted on 12/03/2002 6:00:02 PM PST by HadEnough
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To: HadEnough
Dittoes

see # 16
80 posted on 12/03/2002 6:19:13 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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