[Iron Eagle]

Interesting, does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

Thoughts on this story and the man's run-in with police?

[error99]

"...scattered through every room in the home except the kitchen and bath..."

Hey - he still had room for more stuff!

But I know how he feels, because Mrs. error
won't let me keep guns in the kitchen, either...

[Larry Lucido]

I see a dufus who pointed a gun at someone when he wasn't prepared to use it (and live with the consequences).

[Fiddlstix]

Bang

[wideawake]

Hmmm . . . you're not allowed to set your own home on fire, but are you allowed to let your home burn down?

I'm sure the argument is: the Fire Department has determined that the fire in your own is a threat to the property of others in your immediate vicinity.

And, of course, a large collection of weapons is not an "arsenal." An arsenal is a factory where weapons are made. An armory is a place where weapons are stored.

[MindBender26]

Years ago, law in NY was, once you called FD, the chief on scene was in control.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Wonder what his FR membername is?

[southern rock]

Interesting, does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

Only if you believe that the state does not own your home or your property.

[Revelation 911]

and the homeowner threatened the fire chief with a rifle

Mistake number one

bring a shotgun next time ;-p

does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

depends how much beer they have under wing

[wideawake]

I'll note for the record that the guy was an idiot and was violating many, many rules of gun safety like leaving loaded handguns all over his house.

I mean, the main reason to own a handgun is for home defense. How safe is your home if anyone who breaks in has numerous loaded handguns within easy reach?

This guy and his ilk do a lot to set back the cause of Second Amendment rights.

[Terriergal]

What was he thinking, waving a gun at someone trying to help?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Would this imbecile have been the next worker gone postal? Or have a neighbor killed in a dispute.

As a supporter of the second amendment it appears this guy was either a supplier of guns or off his rocker. Certainly not a prospect to teach a gun safety course.

Any wagers as to how much longer he will work for the Army?

[SevenDaysInMay]

...Arford's permits for the weapons appeared to be in order...

Who else sees that this statement makes no sense, given our Bill of Rights? Are our papers next? Without a doubt.

One's chimney fire should not wave one's 4th Amendment rights. This man stupidly grabbed a rifle instead of a deadbolt.

[Centurion2000]

The ammo could have exploded and shot all over," McGovern said. "If it got hot enough and the gunpowder ignited, the rounds would have become projectiles shooting out of the home."

B$ .... they would become thousands of firecrackers. You need the barrel to contain and channel the explosion to make bullets.

[ctdonath2]

The crux of the issue:

Fire Chief John Feeny ordered Arthur L. Arford to leave his smoky home

Some people don't take kindly to being ordered out of their own home. Granted this guy picked a bad time to switch to home-defense mode. Detatched reasoning is not expected when one's home is on fire.

[Flint]

Where is this place. I have a few firearms and do not have even one "permit" to own them. Nor am I required to have any permit to own them. Exactly what permits were in "order" that made the firearms legal?

[Fred Mertz]

Police estimated that Arford had 220 rifles and shotguns from Russia, Spain, China and other parts of the world, 150 handguns, and an assortment of 100 knives that ranged from buck knifes to umbrellas concealing knives.

I'll bet the crooked cops' mouths are drooling over these.

[bullseye1911]

"The ammo could have exploded and shot all over," McGovern said. "If it got hot enough and the gunpowder ignited, the rounds would have become projectiles shooting out of the home."

Absolute, unadulterated b.s, readily consumed by the sheeple!

[RobRoy]

>>"Guns were just about everywhere you could imagine," McGovern said. "They were just scattered across the house." <<

Yeah, with little old men it's "guns." With little old lady's it's "cats." Sungirl comes to mind...

[B Knotts]

Arford, a 59-year-old budget analyst at Fort Monmouth, then grabbed an unloaded M-1 rifle that was leaning against his bookshelf and attempted to point it at the chief, McGovern said.

What exactly does this mean? "Attempted to point it?"

If it was unloaded, why would he point it at him?

I'm guessing that he grabbed it to take with him, and the chief, being a East Coast authoritarian kind of guy, decided to claim that he "attempted to point it" at him because 1) he resisted leaving his house, and 2) he doesn't like "civilians" (hint: police officers are civilians, too) owning firearms.

[Joe Hadenuf]

When Fire Chief John Feeny ordered Arthur L. Arford to leave his smoky home in a residential area of Colonial Court about 4 p.m. to make way for firefighters, Arford told Feeny the department had no right to force him off his property, said Detective Joseph McGovern. Arford, a 59-year-old budget analyst at Fort Monmouth, then grabbed an unloaded M-1 rifle that was leaning against his bookshelf and attempted to point it at the chief, McGovern said. Robert Frank, a volunteer firefighter and off-duty police officer from Little Silver, grabbed Arford and the rifle before he could raise the weapon, McGovern said.

Attemted to raise the weapon? The officer grabbed Arford before he could raise the weapon? Even a lousy lawyer will have fun with this.