Posted on 12/03/2002 6:32:19 AM PST by Iron Eagle
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:38:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Published in the Asbury Park Press 12/03/02 Fire alerts authorities to nearly 500 weapons By MICHAEL CLANCY STAFF WRITER FAIR HAVEN -- Three dump trucks removed an arsenal of live ammunition and almost 500 weapons -- all of them apparently held legally -- which police found in a home after the fire department responded to a chimney fire and the homeowner threatened the fire chief with a rifle, authorities said yesterday.
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You are brainwashed by the media.
Well except pointing a gun at a fireman...
B$ .... they would become thousands of firecrackers. You need the barrel to contain and channel the explosion to make bullets.
Well except pointing a gun at a fireman...
Really?
When Fire Chief John Feeny ordered Arthur L. Arford to leave his smoky home in a residential area of Colonial Court about 4 p.m. to make way for firefighters, Arford told Feeny the department had no right to force him off his property,
The only mistake he made was to pick up a weapon, if indeed he did, and point it at the chief. I think he had a very powerful argument without the rifle.
You don't suppose he was picking up the rifle to carry it outside, so it wouldn't burn up, do you?
Fire Chief John Feeny ordered Arthur L. Arford to leave his smoky home
Some people don't take kindly to being ordered out of their own home. Granted this guy picked a bad time to switch to home-defense mode. Detatched reasoning is not expected when one's home is on fire.
On top of that, you people obviously know nothing of chimney fires, and how many homes get burned severely as a result each year. Usually, they start because some brain addled moron burns a bunch of pine or other soft woods, lining it with creasote. If the flue remains uncleaned, the creasote will ignite, raising temps enough to ignite wood around the chimney, and it can break the flue open.
And the Second Amendment, in case you hadn't noticed, is under incredible pressure from judicial and political activism. You and I may both know that our God-given right to self-defense is not only unalterably guaranteed by the Constitution but also by the unalterable natural law on which that Constitution is based.
These truths mean nothing to the powerful forces that want to take our rights away.
This moron waving a gun in the face of someone who is trying to save his life and property is counterproductive. It makes those who insist on the right to self-defense look like blithering, volatile idiots.
A chimney is built for smoke, not flame. A chimney fire is actually a dangerous condition where built-up creosote ignites, raises the temperature of the chimney dramatically, and begins cracking the masonry and flames start moving thru the cracks and into the house frame. A very real and very dangerous event.
Is there any other kind? If it was spent it would no longer be ammunition until it was reloaded. Words have meaning...
Well, I don't know what else to do when someone enters your home against your wishes, won't leave when asked, and then tries to remove YOU.
I think he had a very powerful argument without the rifle.
Trust me. "Arguing" with someone who has been trained to believe they are an "authority figure" is useless.
You don't suppose he was picking up the rifle to carry it outside, so it wouldn't burn up, do you?
It's worth a try in court. :)
If they try that, show 'em this:
SAAMI = Sporting Arms & Ammunition Manufacturer's Institute
SLARAC = SAAMI Logistic & Regulatory Affairs Committee
One important product of the SLARAC Committee is a video, Sporting Ammunition and the Firefighter, which was produced by the Committee many years ago. The video analyzes the characteristics associated with the small arms ammunition when it is subjected to severe impact and fire. When a primer ignites, it causes the propellant to burn which creates gases which, when under pressure in a firearm, send the bullet down the barrel. Pressure created by the propellant being burned is what discharges a bullet. As such, loose ammunition in a fire does not result in bullets being discharged because the propellant is not burning under pressure.
The video, which has been widely circulated to fire departments, concludes that while ammunition produces a popping sound when it burns, there is no mass detonation of the ammunition, any projectiles are of low velocity, and there is no threat to firefighters in their standard turn-out gear.
the words are interchangeable but the useage of an arsenal being a stockpile and an armory as a manufacturing site is a more appropriate use. the firefighters have the right to protect the property of others when the homeowner protests their entry... and since they confiscated his "arsenal" i can see why he didn't want them there. he should of allowed them to dowse the flames from the outside and prevented them from taking out any of his weaponry... teeman8r
Did he call the fire department?
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