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To: Asmodeus
...what a "shootown" conspiracy theorist's untenable sequential timeline looks like.

What's "untenable" about it? It, unlike yours, is based on the verifiable objective data from the radars that were painting TWA-800 during the entire event. Yours, on the other hand is based on WHAT? Your criticism seems to be based on Major Fred Meyers' report which is completely SUBJECTIVE... and as you point out, eyewitness reports must be evaluated with that knowledge. Human beings are NOT clocks and the awareness of subjective time can change with circumstances.

This graphic YOU label as "Major Meyer's (sic) Own Press Graphic" is NO SUCH THING. Major Meyers did not draw it. As it shows quite clearly it is an artist's (Paul D. Rodriguez) rendition of HIS interpretation of Meyers' description... and that is most likely based on published reports, not first hand description by Meyers.

As to your timeline,

8:31:43-8:31:47 Fiery streak appears.

8:31:47 Explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.

8:31:55-8:31:57 Splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.

the radar echoes DID NOT RETURN AN ECHO from TWA-800 after 20:31:44:29... the next sweep at 20:31:48:94 FAILS TO SHOW TWA-800 IN THE SKY AT ALL! It was either slightly above the radar horizon (nowhere near 5000 to 7500 feet) or in the Atlantic Ocean when YOU claim it was experiencing the "massive fireball" at 5000 to 7500 feet. Why didn't the radar see the pieces of TWA-800 at 4000 to 6500 feet on the next radar return??? Where was it Asmodeus?

Finally, if, as you claim, the fireball occurred at 20:31:47 and the splashdown occurred from 7 to 9 seconds later, that would require a fall rate of from ~556 to ~833 feet per second of a HOT GAS (which rises!) WITHOUT ACCELERATION from gravity!!! Asmodeus, this is not possible.

It is amazing that you can find some way to inject your pet theory into almost every thread you post in...

31 posted on 12/03/2002 8:56:06 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
Witness Frederick C. Meyers' Own Press Graphic
See "Source" At Lower Left

Are you alleging that Meyers never saw that graphic and/or that he disagreed with it?

You contend the following in your sequential timeline:

8:30:10 - Meyer sees "meteor like" streak flash accross his field of view.

8:31:13 - Meyer sees bright white Ordnance type explosion at 13,840 feet

8:31:39 - Meyer sees Massive Fireball explode at 7000 feet

In short, you contend that there was approximately [1] 63 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's first observation of the streak of light and his observation of a bright white light ordnance type explosion at approximately 13,800 feet and [2] an additional 26 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's observation of the bright white light ordnance type explosion and his observation of the Massive Fireball explosion at approximately 7000 feet.

Let's take a closer look at those two contentions - in reverse order:

[2] Click here for Meyers' detailed report. He obviously did not and could not have seen a "flak" shootdown of the airliner at 13,800 feet at 8:31:13 only (his estimate) 3-4 seconds before he saw the Massive Fireball explode at 5500-7500 feet at approximately 8:31:39.

[1] Witness Meyers was interviewed by an NTSB Witness Team on 11 January 1997, six months after the disaster and over a year before his above detailed presentation elsewhere. The NTSB interview was transcribed and is available for review by clicking here.

[excerpt][emphasis added]
"I saw to -- in front of me and slightly to my left of dead front I saw a streak of light in the sky. I have no idea what it was. And my reaction when I saw it was, what the hell is that? I observed it for somewhere in approximately three to five seconds moving in a gradually descending arc -- sort of a gentle descending trajectory. Similar to that which you would observe at night if you observed a shooting star. The difference is that it was red-orange in color and it was broad daylight."

Yet, you allege that he watched the streak of light for sixty-three seconds - ignoring the indication in his reports and press graphic that the streak of light was at all times descending while he watched it.

32 posted on 12/04/2002 10:17:38 AM PST by Asmodeus
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