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"Dispel Mark of Beast Phobia", replace cards with biometrics, 100 million users, pilot launched
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Posted on 12/01/2002 11:30:53 PM PST by chance33_98
Summary of slides in PDF file, which can be read (or saved by right clicking) on this Link
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KEYWORDS: christianlist; conspiracy; govwatch; religion; techindex
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Did a quick job of copy and paste and edit HTML from the PDF. Just thought this was a bit interesting. The PDF is made up of slides and looks better then what I did.
Technology is amazing, but in the wrong hands it can have terrible affects (ala saddam and wmd, versus US and wmd).
To: Thinkin' Gal; Centurion2000; JohnGalt; Slipjack; SauronOfMordor; EternalHope; cpdiii; ...
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To: chance33_98
This is truly scary! Be a long time afore they get me using something like this. Damn, it's like 1984!!! Where I go and what I buy is my business and ye best be staying out of it!
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:52:26 PM PST
by
upchuck
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To: upchuck
They sell keyboards now with biometrics, how long before they are required for online transactions? Books you buy, etc, all tracked more easily.
We are being conditioned now to accept presenting ID for all purchases with in-store card programs. Even when paying in cash you don't get the perks without the card.
It's just a matter of time.
To: upchuck
They also have a presentation on this from Disney and it's implementations at the main link. Guess we will have to live with it...
To: chance33_98
"They also have a presentation on this from Disney and it's implementations at the main link. Guess we will have to live with it..."
If enough people protested and refused to buy from merchants that used this (yes, even Disney) then they'd have to find another way.
To: lonewacko_dot_com
I agree, but I simply do not see that happening. The technology has benefits, a lot of them in fact, but what will happen in my estimation is that the christian right will protest it (and hence they must be weakened, liberalized) but they will be margianlized - and all the time people who are complaining about the privacy factor (and not the religious one) will not get much press.
They already have a wealth of responses to the privacy arguments, except what I see as the biggest one - trusting your government. I don't trust them whether bush or clinton are in, but they are a big driving force behind this. And with all the new buzz about security - well biometrics being used as the only source of being able to do business would solve that for the most part.
To: Thinkin' Gal
Proceedings for the Biometric Consortium 2000 Conference: Biometric Technologies...Emerging into the Mainstream: can be downloaded here in PDF format (29.6 MB file size). Compiled by Dr. Victor McCrary, Fernando Podio, and John Costello, the proceedings contain biographies of speakers as well as printed powerpoint slides from given talks. You can download the PDF from this site: http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/pubs.html Should be first paragraph on right side. It is about 700 pages and full of fascinating information from the conference. Well worth the read.
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To: Cindy
Ping - returning the favor, thanks for the links!
So some POS hacks off my index finger at a POS and I become SOL PDQ after he empties my bank account from an ATM and I can't even ID my HMO for the RN at the ICU after driving there in my SUV? No, thanks.
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posted on
12/02/2002 1:33:57 AM PST
by
Orbiter
To: Orbiter
Well, some of them call for using both biometrics and smart card together, not to mention they are also exploring retina, face recognition, and voice recognition. Hopefully no one will rip out your eye .)
To: chance33_98
Thanks for the info....hmmmmm...scary stuff.
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12/02/2002 1:51:29 AM PST
by
Cindy
To: Cindy; Thinkin' Gal
Failure To Enroll (goats): 2 elderly people I wonder if they refer to those that follow as sheep...
To: chance33_98
Could be...it's really frightening these days, generally speaking, that the truth is scarier than any fiction writer could dream up.
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posted on
12/02/2002 3:53:52 AM PST
by
Cindy
To: Cindy
What makes it worse, to me anyway, is that you cannot survive without financial interaction - now I know that seems obvious, but let's say your amish and you decide to live on a farm and grow all you need. Well, you still have to pay taxes on your property so you will need an income and/or a bank account. So no matter how hard you try to avoid it you won't be able to. Add to that the case I posted where someone on welfare lost benefits because they would not use the technology on religious grounds and it gets scarier.
Giving the government control over so much information that affects our lives daily is a mistake - whether or not you have religious inclinations.
To: chance33_98
I don't beleive this is what is referred to as the Mark of the Beast, its simply fingerprint analysis for security purposes.
It could very well be a prelude or desensatization process needed before the Mark, but not the actual one. JMO
To: DainBramage
I would tend to agree, although using the right index or the eye (forehead?) is interesting. I do agree though that this is probably a first step - a control/change step. It will be used, people will like it, will make life easier, and the 'beast' effect will be scoffed at. Then perhaps it will be time. A good set up actually :)
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