Posted on 12/01/2002 11:30:53 PM PST by chance33_98
Summary of slides in PDF file, which can be read (or saved by right clicking) on this Link
Large Scale
Phase 1 (pilots)
Only 1 un-enrollment
Credit/account and other personal information use concerns
Understand that, was there for awhile myself. But if an employer pays by check then you have to get it cashed somehow, and if it becomes the norm then check cashing places will implement them.
Even then they will do what they do now at grocery stores, jack up prices high but give discounts to people who use the card - only soon it will be use your fingerprint. Just look at the case I posted from NY - They could not get welfare without it. Get laid off in a tough economy? No money unless you do it their way.
I am with you though, I still use cash most of the time (and I work for a bank). I like the ease of being able to pay bills online - but I also like the choice to pay anyway I want.
I have a bunch of downloaded pdf's from conferences and such - it is going to be here en masse before we know it.
Imagine how the insurance companies could use this info. You ate at McDonald's three times last month, bought oreos and other junk food, etc. Not to mention all the other ways that information could be used to box you in.
Yeah, let's dispel that phobia, hahahaha. This is coming for sure, it will be forced on everyone, like illegal immigration. After everyone is chipped, it becomes a simple matter for a dictator to demand a show of your devotion to him by taking his mark and if you don't, your chip is turned off, you can't even buy gasoline, pay your property taxes, you lose it all, all except the most important thing.
I can already tell you what one of the selling points will be, you can't vote in an American election if your an illegal, because the proper ok to vote won't be on their chip. It will be seen as a good thing to Republicans for sure, it will be a lame answer to sovereignty, and leave the illusion of citizenship remaining.
The thing is, you don't know how long after your chipped that this dictator is going to show up, five years twenty? This really needs to be fought hard here in America.
They are already working on a schema for voting machines to use them to identify people. Will have to dig up my articles on that when I am not at work (most my bookmarks are at home).
I think today we call this "Unintended Consequences", but the end thereof are the ways of death.
I am finally home and should have those online late tonight as jpg's. Will post a few here with a link to the rest at my web site.
I'm probably one of the few people left around here without one of those grocery tags hanging off of my keychain. About twice a year I'll venture into a big supermarket for a specialty item. It is my observation that they don't offer 'discounts' with the card, but rather gouge the heck out of you if you don't have the card. Produce, for example, can be double the price w/o the stupid card. Now some people will use fake information to get cards, but I prefer to avoid these stores. It'll be increasingly harder to do just that.
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