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"Dispel Mark of Beast Phobia", replace cards with biometrics, 100 million users, pilot launched
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Posted on 12/01/2002 11:30:53 PM PST by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
There's too much invasion of privacy happening at a real fast pace. I don't like it.
22 posted on 12/02/2002 4:18:49 AM PST by DBtoo
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To: Ookie Wonderslug
I have no bank accounts or credit cards.

Understand that, was there for awhile myself. But if an employer pays by check then you have to get it cashed somehow, and if it becomes the norm then check cashing places will implement them.

Even then they will do what they do now at grocery stores, jack up prices high but give discounts to people who use the card - only soon it will be use your fingerprint. Just look at the case I posted from NY - They could not get welfare without it. Get laid off in a tough economy? No money unless you do it their way.

I am with you though, I still use cash most of the time (and I work for a bank). I like the ease of being able to pay bills online - but I also like the choice to pay anyway I want.

I have a bunch of downloaded pdf's from conferences and such - it is going to be here en masse before we know it.

23 posted on 12/02/2002 4:21:51 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: DBtoo
There's too much invasion of privacy happening at a real fast pace. I don't like it.

Imagine how the insurance companies could use this info. You ate at McDonald's three times last month, bought oreos and other junk food, etc. Not to mention all the other ways that information could be used to box you in.

24 posted on 12/02/2002 4:40:35 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: xzins
Ping!
25 posted on 12/02/2002 5:09:22 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
bump
26 posted on 12/02/2002 5:21:14 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: chance33_98; fortheDeclaration; ShadowAce; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; SpookBrat; ...
bio-metric ID technology.

Notice last slide after you go to link. It says "dispel mark of beast phobia." Interesting.

Does anyone know how to copy/paste those acrobat pdf files?
27 posted on 12/02/2002 5:22:48 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
I was able to copy and paste the text, the images will have to wait until I am home and I can upload them to my server.
28 posted on 12/02/2002 5:23:33 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Scary stuff indeed.
29 posted on 12/02/2002 5:25:25 AM PST by rintense
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To: chance33_98
"Must continue to educate the public on how biometric technology works to dispel the “Mark of the Beast” phobia"

Yeah, let's dispel that phobia, hahahaha. This is coming for sure, it will be forced on everyone, like illegal immigration. After everyone is chipped, it becomes a simple matter for a dictator to demand a show of your devotion to him by taking his mark and if you don't, your chip is turned off, you can't even buy gasoline, pay your property taxes, you lose it all, all except the most important thing.

I can already tell you what one of the selling points will be, you can't vote in an American election if your an illegal, because the proper ok to vote won't be on their chip. It will be seen as a good thing to Republicans for sure, it will be a lame answer to sovereignty, and leave the illusion of citizenship remaining.

The thing is, you don't know how long after your chipped that this dictator is going to show up, five years twenty? This really needs to be fought hard here in America.

30 posted on 12/02/2002 5:43:59 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
you can't vote in an American election

They are already working on a schema for voting machines to use them to identify people. Will have to dig up my articles on that when I am not at work (most my bookmarks are at home).

31 posted on 12/02/2002 5:46:40 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
"Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

I think today we call this "Unintended Consequences", but the end thereof are the ways of death.

32 posted on 12/02/2002 6:41:58 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Lilly
Ping to ya :)
33 posted on 12/02/2002 7:10:12 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Bump for discussion.
34 posted on 12/02/2002 11:56:41 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: xzins
Does anyone know how to copy/paste those acrobat pdf files?

I am finally home and should have those online late tonight as jpg's. Will post a few here with a link to the rest at my web site.

35 posted on 12/02/2002 12:13:12 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: DainBramage
"It could very well be a prelude or desensatization process needed before the Mark"

Like it says in the PDF, if you sign up for their service you get a free hamburger!

Make sure to get a super-sized meal when they want to give you your barcode.
36 posted on 12/02/2002 12:42:37 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: DainBramage
I agree, this is incrementalism.

Funny, I was talking 'shop' the other day with a CEO of another firm and he said that a 'chip' could be so small that it could be administered...via a vaccination!
37 posted on 12/02/2002 12:51:37 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: chance33_98
Even then they will do what they do now at grocery stores, jack up prices high but give discounts to people who use the card

I'm probably one of the few people left around here without one of those grocery tags hanging off of my keychain. About twice a year I'll venture into a big supermarket for a specialty item. It is my observation that they don't offer 'discounts' with the card, but rather gouge the heck out of you if you don't have the card. Produce, for example, can be double the price w/o the stupid card. Now some people will use fake information to get cards, but I prefer to avoid these stores. It'll be increasingly harder to do just that.

38 posted on 12/02/2002 1:18:14 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Orbiter
The latest version of this technology senses the difference between a fake finger (i.e. made of silicon) and a real one. Everyone has a small current that flows through their bodies and a "connected" finger is required to make the circuit read the print. Early versions of these devices used a form of "copy machine" imaging that could easily be defeated through the oils left on the glass after lifting your finger away.
39 posted on 12/02/2002 1:30:29 PM PST by jettester
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To: chance33_98
The 'Mark of the Beast'? Are all such decisions considered a 'phobia' if they don't meet with governments approval?
40 posted on 12/02/2002 1:48:59 PM PST by MoGalahad
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