1. Both sides here are glad Bush is President, glad the House and the Senater are also Republican, but one demands action on Conservative issues. They speak out about this in public.
2. The other side isn't going to listen to anyone try to urge him to take action on important matters. He "ALWAYS" knows best. And if he doesn't, why they'll send him a note. They think it is never appropriate to discuss issues of dissent openly in public.
The Bushbots think number 2 is the way to go. In fact, they don't consider the support of this to be evidence of "Bushbotism". Heaven only knows what they would consider Bushbotism to consist of.
The concept of rationally discussing a point on it's own merits is completely foreign to them. Open a discussion and within a few posts the issues will be diverted to Buchanan this, racism that, hate the other. It's the same time-honored tactic used by liberal Democrats for decades. And now it's our turn according to some. Bushbots can't see it and heaven forbid you try to use reason to reveal any of this to them. It's an impossibility.
The idea that the frank discussion of issues on point would lead others to support Bush when the debate confirmed his position, is completely foreign to them. The idea that a complete lack of discussing conservative issues and how they relate to Bush and our nation, would leave an absolute void, where conservative ideals would not be discussed in public, would never be exposed to those we wish to vote for our candidates. Evidently it seems rational to Bushbots that folks should vote for Bush based on their recommendation, even if they can't explain one valid reason why. And "they" wonder why conservative ideals are so poorly understood.
Bush is not perfect, he just always has a plan which explains away any need for rational conservative action. This is rational to Bushbots.
Bush is not perfect and needs to be taken to task from time to time. This is rational to the non-Bushbot.
Neither of these positions demands a person hate Bush or wish his defeat. Both sides desire Bush to succeed. Both want him to push conservative ideals. Only one side is afraid to voice an opinion inpublic. It may be challenged.
You stated, "Common sense seems in short supply." Partner, common sense, rationality, adult behavior, reason... you name it, when it comes to issues concerning Bush the folks on this forum have demonstrated it is a complete impossibility to debate the issues on point.
Wasn't that the goal? As long as an issue is a valid issue, shouldn't it be debated? Doesn't our Constitution stand for anything anymore, if you're not a Bushbot?
I came into this thread thinking the author was an idiot and that respondants would recognize that and move on. Instead the thread became a dump on Buchananites, racists are everywhere, dump on whiners, dump on anyone who doesn't kiss St. George's butt.
Frankly the intitial promise of this forum gave me hope for far higher ideals.
I keep going back to the stated goals of the welcome on the main page. Those are lofty and admirable goals. I just don't see where FR is now serving those goals.
I don't care what party is in power. Neither are perfect and should be taken to task when they are wrong. Just because you win an election doesn't mean you have changed the tide. Republicans have there faults, maybe fewer, but they are there. To ignore them is not helpful.
I just wonder how many would be silent here on FR if it were democrats doing the very same thing. Few would be my guess.
I just think the same yard stick should be used.
WarHawk42
Not so fast there...... :-)