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To: SJackson; Lazamataz; RJayneJ
Those are great reasons for Israel to have their land. Here are my own:

1. Might makes right. To the victor goes the spoils, and as Saudi Arabia's ruling Saud family says "If you want to change us, then do so by the sword".

2. Good stewards. While in possession of their land, Israel has turned deserts into pastures, rocks into factories, and sand into tourist resort beaches. Moreover, the legal rights of ALL religions are respected and explicitly protected under Israeli law and rule.

3. The UN/U.S/and the previous owner (England) say so. Great Britain's Palestinian territory was formally divided into Palestine/Jordan and Israel by treaty, and formally recognized by the UN and all great powers.

4. Losers have no claim. Jerusalem's Grand Mufti went to Hitler to curry favor with the NAZI's. He expressed explicit support for Germany's anti-Jewish policies. Well, the Grand Mufti and Hitler got their heads handed to them in their ill-advised war on the civilized world. Too bad, so sad.

5. The claims against Israel are bogus. The Palestinians were kicked out of Palestine in September of 1969 by the Islamic King of Jordan after they tried to take over Hussein's entire country. Now they claim that their NEW homeland is the real Palestine (i.e. Israel). That dog won't hunt.

6. The behavior by the claimants is reprehensible. Palestinians engage in deliberate "peace-time" attacks on civilians. Exclusively murdering innocent civilians with no military value is hardly a a tactic that can be rewarded by suddenly caving in to their demands.

7. The Palestinians have a history of reneging on every deal that they enter. Even if their demands were met, they would soon be making other demands under the threat of renewed terrorism.

100 posted on 12/01/2002 11:42:16 AM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Your reasons all work. BTW, regarding your #7The Palestinians have a history of reneging on every deal that they enter. Even if their demands were met, they would soon be making other demands

Have you ever read THE PLO'S PHASED PLAN adopted in the wake of the Yom Kippur war, in recognition of the fact that the Arab’s couldn’t defeat Israel militarily?

They’re TELLING the world what they are going to do.

Article 2: Through the "armed struggle" (i.e., terrorism), to establish an "independent combatant national authority" over any territory that is "liberated" from Israeli rule.

Next, Article 4, continue the struggle against Israel, using the territory of the national authority as a base of operations

finally, article 8, provoke an all-out war in which Israel's Arab neighbors destroy it.

So much for negotiations, though from Oslo makes sense from this perspective. So does the “road map”

BTW, note articles 5 and 6, they’re planning on overthrowing Jordan along the way. After all, it is their true “homeland”

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THE PLO'S PHASED PLAN

Political Programme

Adopted at the 12th Session of the Palestinian National Council

Cairo, June 9, 1974

Text of the Phased Plan resolution:

The Palestinian National Council:

On the basis of the Palestinian National Charter and the Political Programme drawn up at the eleventh session, held from January 6-12, 1973; and from its belief that it is impossible for a permanent and just peace to be established in the area unless our Palestinian people recover all their national rights and, first and foremost, their rights to return and to self-determination on the whole of the soil of their homeland; and in the light of a study of the new political circumstances that have come into existence in the period between the Council's last and present sessions, resolves the following:

1. To reaffirm the Palestine Liberation Organization's previous attitude to Resolution 242, which obliterates the national right of our people and deals with the cause of our people as a problem of refugees. The Council therefore refuses to have anything to do with this resolution at any level, Arab or international, including the Geneva Conference.

2. The Liberation Organization will employ all means, and first and foremost armed struggle, to liberate Palestinian territory and to establish the independent combatant national authority for the people over every part of Palestinian territory that is liberated. This will require further changes being effected in the balance of power in favour of our people and their struggle.

3. The Liberation Organization will struggle against any proposal for a Palestinian entity the price of which is recognition, peace, secure frontiers, renunciation of national rights and the deprival of our people of their right to return and their right to self-determination on the soil of their homeland.

4. Any step taken towards liberation is a step towards the realization of the Liberation Organization's strategy of establishing the democratic Palestinian state specified in the resolutions of previous Palestinian National Councils.

5. Struggle along with the Jordanian national forces to establish a Jordanian-Palestinian national front whose aim will be to set up in Jordan a democratic national authority in close contact with the Palestinian entity that is established through the struggle.

6. The Liberation Organization will struggle to establish unity in struggle between the two peoples and between all the forces of the Arab liberation movement that are in agreement on this programme.

7. In the light of this programme, the Liberation Organization will struggle to strengthen national unity and to raise it to the level where it will be able to perform its national duties and tasks.

8. Once it is estabished, the Palestinian national authority will strive to achieve a union of the confrontation countries, with the aim of completing the liberation of all Palestinian territory, and as a step along the road to comprehensive Arab unity.

9. The Liberation Organization will strive to strengthen its solidarity with the socialist countries, and with forces of liberation and progress throughout the world, with the aim of frustration all the schemes of Zionism, reaction and imperialism.

10. In light of this programme, the leadership of the revolution will determine the tactics which will serve and make possible the realization of these objectives.

The Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization will make every effort to implement this programme, and should a situation arise affecting the destiny and the future of the Palestinian people, the National Assembly will be convened in extraordinary session.

102 posted on 12/01/2002 11:56:54 AM PST by SJackson
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