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1 posted on 11/30/2002 3:39:08 AM PST by Pokey78
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Pinging the Sullivan list.
2 posted on 11/30/2002 3:39:51 AM PST by Pokey78
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This is genuinely bizarre. Also see:

The Beauties And The Beasts

...and I swear I hadn't read Sullivan's column!

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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3 posted on 11/30/2002 3:49:02 AM PST by fporretto
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See also Beauty and the beast of intolerance in Nigeria.
4 posted on 11/30/2002 4:48:53 AM PST by jordan8
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A very good Sullivan piece. I had NO idea how many on the left not only failed to condemn what took place, but also try to deflect blame from the radical Muslims responsible. I must admit, I thought it was a stupid place to hold the contest, but the Miss World folks hardly forced themselves on Nigeria. They were paying guests in that country. A beauty contest is a harmless thing, certainly nothing to be compared to the repression of women in Muslim countries.

I can't believe how people on the left lend support to these Islamofascists. It really makes my brain melt.
5 posted on 11/30/2002 5:25:20 AM PST by jocon307
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Oxymoron: Tolerant Muslim
7 posted on 11/30/2002 7:02:53 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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The West has to realize that Islam is incompatible with freedom.
11 posted on 11/30/2002 8:02:05 AM PST by Koblenz
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"As far as I'm concerned it's equally disrespectful and abusive to have women prancing around a stage in bathing suits for cash or walking the streets shrouded in burkas in order to survive."

I think this comment by an MSNBC journalist gives a good insight into the confluence between the Gramscist movements and radical islam.

Radical islam has the illusion of being the product of "Organic" culture (whatever that means). To them it is not the product of the illusion of the marxist evil god of bourgeouis european capitalism as the Miss World Contest is. Therefore radical Islam is somehow better. It seems that journalists treat everything as mere abstractions, as if all news stories, including the Miss World thing were taking place inside of a surrealist novel and not resulting in the death of hundreds of people.

This is a dangerous side-effect of abstract and surreal movements in the arts and entertainment. They tend to make us disconnected from the empirical reality of most situations.

12 posted on 11/30/2002 8:07:55 AM PST by Odyssey-x
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