[Old Professer]

Those kinds of attitudes reflect a long history of adapting to oppression and stymied opportunities

As long as the external forces are held blame, nothing will change.

[ricpic]

Was it 30 years ago that Daniel Patrick Moynahan recommended that the problem of black under-performance be treated with "benign neglect?"
Of course he was exscoriated for saying the unsayable at the time. But isn't that, what in effect, the best and brightest, most well intentioned members of white america have done?
After pouring how many trillions of dollars down every conceivable program of social uplift, and seeing very little, if any result, in terms of closing the black white gulf, they have decided to quietly give up on the problem.
They have moved away from racial engagement; both physically and mentally.
And who can blame them? Why waste your time and treasure on an intractable problem. Life's too short.

[Slyfox]

What makes this guy's study very plausible is the fact that he studied rich blacks along side rich whites. That alone cuts out the reasons we usually hear as to why black students do inferior work to white.

Take this on for size. He infered that the blacks who did not do well in this school system did not do their homework. All kids, no matter the skin color, are going to do better than kids who don't do their homework.

I think this guy is spot on. It's high time we stopped blaming the problem on money or lack of money. With all that the moola we have poured into education for the last 30 or so years we should be seeing at least 50 national merit scholars coming out of each and every high school in the entire country.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

Could well known or prominent successful blacks calling Colin Powell and Condi Rice black house slaves have anything to do with student's attitudes?

[FITZ]

What amazed me is that these kids who come from homes of doctors and lawyers are not thinking like their parents; they don't know how their parents made it,"

Are they comparing non-Affirmative Action homes with other non-Affirmative Action homes? It wouldn't be quite fair to compare whites whose parents didn't benefit from AA with blacks whose parents did. I wonder what would happen if you compared only those who completely made it on their own ---maybe children of military parents.

[rmvh]

Re your #1....The persistent academic gap between white and black students has touched off difficult and often ugly debates over the question why.

Don'T worry your pretty little head about this...The problem is being resolved as the years go by.....We just have to continue to "dumb down" government education for all races so that everyone is a stupid as the lowest common denominator and then the minorities will be happy!

Its PC, don't you see?