Do Moslems, Christians & Jews Believe in the Same God?

frontpagemag ^ | 11/28/2002 | Serge Trifkovic

[Jorge]

You can't follow your own logic. That's a common fault. Don't sweat it.

Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what dude?

I know exactly what I believe, and I've addressed far more well thought out arguments than anything you've posted.

Is this what your simple minded challenges have been reduced to?
I've laid out the Biblical foundations and teachings which support the doctrine that man was endowed with free will by God.

And you still seem unable to articulate a coherant argument to challenge any of my points...and have gone from parroting worn out simple minded cliches like "if God is all powerful then how can evil exist???? Huh? Huh?" ...to the juvenile responses we see above.

LOL.

[geopyg]

We may not be at war with Islam - but IT is at war with us. I myself think of it more as "We will fight a war against Afghanistan (or Iraq) and destroy them." We obviously didn't want to destroy the entire country, or the citizens. Only to get rid of the power structure and belief system that was there that was attacking and threatening us. The PEOPLE themselves we are compassionate for.

I know that Jesus was obviously against the false beliefs people had at the time (pagan, Jewish, Roman, etc.), but he loved the people, and tried to teach people about Himself and His Father. And He left His disciples and their followers (Christians) to spread the word with love.

Not that I think that the terrorists will always respond to love (I pray that a few will), and shouldn't be dealt with force. But, I do think that our Muslim neighbors and friends (of whom my wife and I have a few) CAN be treated as friends if they give respect to us and our country. But that doesn't mean I have to respect their religion. (However, most of them do say that they aren't very good Muslims. I've wondered if they were "good" Muslims we wouldn't get along?)

[Dimensio]

If I am not right yet, I ought to be,

Why?

and someday will be, if the country survives.

How will this be accomplished? Do you really think that the First Amendment, whose wording was chosen over far more specific terminology, only meant to cover specific religions even though it does not explicitly state as much?

[Dimensio]

Muslims are flying airplanes into buildings and cutting off people heads while worshipping allah.

I went to high school with a kid who was a Muslim (as was his family). Oddly, I don't remember them ever doing that.

[Cultural Jihad]

We are not at war against Islam and Islam is not at war against us. The Muslims who are now under the brutal rule of socialist and Arab nationalist dictators will thank us for bringing democracy to the region.

[Dimensio]

It's actually revealed through thorough documentation that accompanies the first amendment that is apparently only available to those who make such a claim.

[TLBSHOW]

your lucky

[Dimensio]

This still doesn't make God responsible for evil.

What about Isaiah 45:7?

[Jorge]

You still can't follow your own logic.

Polly wanna cracker?
You are becoming more incoherent with each post.

[TLBSHOW]

even winston churchill knows we are at war with islam

[geopyg]

Agreed. I just hope that the "viciousness" that is so often quoted from the Koran can somehow be put on the backburner. (Or better yet, put on the backburner, left on high, burnt like a crisp and thrown out with the bath water.)

[Dimensio]

The Bible teaches that God created Lucifer perfect in every way. Lucifer rebelled against God

That's interesting. So the nature of a "perfect" being is to rebel against God.

Very interesting.

To claim that somehow God's being all powerful makes Him responsible for the evil committed by man and Satan is an unfounded smear against the perfectly Holy character of God.

I think that the point is that if God created absolutely everything that exists (except for Himself) and if God knows absolutely everything then God knew before He made his creation just how it would turn out, and He could have done things differently so that events would have worked out differently had He chosen. As such, He is responsible for everything that did happen, including evil, since none of it would have happened without His original act of creation, and because He is all-knowing and all-powerful, there's no room to argue that unforseen variables cropped up.

[Dimensio]

your lucky

Really? You're saying that suicide bombing and decapitation is common practice for Muslims in the US? I'm sure that you have evidence for this assertion.

I went to middle school with a Muslim kid as well (different kid, different family). Again, no evidence that his family was involved in any such things.

[Cultural Jihad]

even winston churchill knows we are at war with islam

In 1965, at the age of 90 he died of a stroke.

When did you start channeling?? ;)

[Cultural Jihad]

Sir, with all due respect: A theologian you ain't.

Indubitably. All I do is describe Reality. Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

[TLBSHOW]

RECOGNIZE THE ENEMY --- THE ENEMY IS ISLAM

Islam is a violent religion bent on world domination. Recognize this now or pay the tab later.

John Rossi’s recent article in The Weekly Standard told us of Winston Churchill’s opinion of Islam. Here --- read this:

"That religion, which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword--the tenets and principles of which are...incentives to slaughter and which in three continents had produced fighting breeds of men--stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism."

Is it time to listen to Winston Churchill?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/736443/posts

[Jorge]

Jorge"This still doesn't make God responsible for evil." What about Isaiah 45:7?

The "evil" in this passage means calamity or disaster...not that God is the author of moral evil.
God prohibits, judges and punishes moral evil throughout the Bible. For Him to also be the creator of moral evil would make Him a sadistic monster who causes his creations to sin and then delights in their suffering His punishment for it.
This is a horrific characterization of God that defies what the Bible teaches about His love, patience and mercy toward mankind.

[BJungNan]

In a word, "No" the Muslims do not believe in the same God as the Christians and Jews.

In a word, One. As in there is only one God. And he don't share no power, especially with anything worshipped by people who send their own sons and daughters to be suicide, murderous, pig vile scum.