Posted on 11/28/2002 2:39:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
You sound like Al Gore. Completely clueless.
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You are wrong. We tested high tech artillary shells developed at NRL which killed the enemy by the hundreds. After they were found to work, they were packed up and sent back to the states. Additionally, the tactics employed under the direction of McNamara were self-defeating. I don't believe you know anything about the war or the period.
BS. He played the hand he was given (eroding popular support, no way to win without going the Dresden route, economic strains, dope spreading throughout the ranks, tension among generations within the upper middle class) as Nixon told him to play it. There were few choices, and what choices there were all sucked.
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Not much of a serious refutation in your statement. In the unlikely event you undergo a brief moment of introspection, maybe you might consider the possibility it is you who are clueless.
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Stick around and you might hear a lot of things for the first time. Not that it will do much good with your attitude.
Not much of a serious statement to refute. Calling Bush "feeble minded and out of place in the presidency" is contraindicated by the endorsement of the American people, which I will take over the ruminations of a retired old college professor.
Kissinger is quoted as saying the following at a conference in France in 1992:
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenarios, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
Kissinger is a globalist and has no loyalty to either America or our Constitution. He, like many in Washington, seek global government.
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The problem with intellectuals is that they are intellectuals. The intellectual climate of the time believed communism/socialism to be the inexorable wave of change representing the people's movement and that any resistance to it should be cosmetic while the United States was eased into decline. That view still predominates at most universities today. Kissinger was a product of that environment.
What is your documentation for this statement?
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I seem to remember a recent presidential election in which Bush started with a 15 point lead over a moron and ended up losing the popular vote to that moron as more people became familiar with Bush. Hardly an endorsement. Bush was on the ropes and ready to be ushered from the White House in '04 until Jihadists started flying airplanes into buildings causing people to cluster around Bush in panic.
He allegedly said it at a Bilderberg conference. Alex Jones has it listed in his book. A quick google search will also turn up many references.
Your interpretation. Gore, with a booming economy, should have beaten Bush by 15 points. Interesting that you think everybody's a "moron."
Bush was on the ropes and ready to be ushered from the White House in '04 until Jihadists started flying airplanes into buildings causing people to cluster around Bush in panic.
Again, your feeble interpretation.
You don't like Bush, that's clear. But the guy you do like is despised by the rest of the American electorate.
G.W. is a new kid on the block. Henry K. has a long history in which to be judged. G.W. has yet to make his history. I for one hope that in the future, when we reflect on G.W.'s accomplishments, we can say that he was great for America. Unfortunately when we look back on Kissingers accomplishments, we will have to conclude that he did not have America's interest at heart. And when we look back on the Kissinger commision, I'm afraid we'll see it as one of G.W.'s blunders.
Why?
Think of the poor innocent women and children who died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Think of the fun of being the tailgunner in those B-29s. Nothing like the smell of dead Jap children in the morning to make a tailgunner feel really good.
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No, your feeble counterinterpretation. Your so deep into denial and resentment of me that you would assert the sun will rise in the West tomorrow morning.
Your interpretation. I disagree.
And when we look back on the Kissinger commision, I'm afraid we'll see it as one of G.W.'s blunders.
The commission was put in place as a sop to the families. There's already congressional investigations ongoing, with professional investigators well down the road.
The commission is going to find nothing because, frankly, there is nothing to find. We know the CIA and FBI didn't pick up on the clues, but, then, hindsight is 20/20.
We have to prevent future 9/11s, which is what Homeland Security is about.
The "independent commmission" is a waste of money and a waste of time.
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