Say goodbye to the golden land

World Net Daily ^ | November 27, 2002 | Pat Buchanan

[MissAmericanPie]

Are you sure you didn't wander over from DU? It's generally liberals that when confronted with hard facts evade by accusations of rambling, etc.

Homeland defense is estimated to cost 32 billion in fiscal 2003, and possibly as much as 51 billion by 2007. Here's the site address.

http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/OEG2002061850024

While your enjoying the read, pat your pockets and see if you have that kind of change in them, Jorge would like to know.

[Sparta]

Thanks for the dead link. Got any other sources? BTW: I responded to your "hard facts".

[MissAmericanPie]

Type it in right next time, it works fine.

[Revolting cat!]

It's only because Pat Buchanan said it that it's considered such a heresy. If Ann Coulter wrote the same things (i.e. quoted the very same stats) these personality cultists here would be drooling over the photos of her bare legs and her prominent Adam's apple. I'm no Buchanan fan m'self but I find little in the above article that's objectionable.

[Clemenza]

Actually, New York and California have the most expensive real estate in the country and some of the wealthiest metro areas in the nation as well. If you want to look at a net drain on the national economy, look at Mississippi or West Virginia. New York only receives 60 cents of every dollar that they send to Washington. Trent Lott and Robert Byrd are stealing THIS New Yorker's taxes!

[Clemenza]

Pat was a once great speach writer who has become a cult author akin to Edgar Caycee or Carlos Castaneda. His doom and gloom didn't work in the early 90s and it won't work now. Then again, he will still get the senile New York-expats in Palm Beach to give him 3,000 votes next time.

[Clemenza]

Watch yourself. Some of us made our livings from global trade and will continue to do so (at least when I get out of grad school).

Free minds, free markets, free society. It's more than a magazine slogan.

[MissAmericanPie]

I'm not a Buchanan fan either, but it doesn't mean he is wrong all the time. The solution is to put the military on our border, round up illegals in country and deport them. Works fine in the Balkins.

[SoCal Pubbie]

"Very few move here from the rest of the US anymore."

Tell that to L.A.'s new Chief of Police.

[ex-snook]

"His doom and gloom didn't work in the early 90s and it won't work now. "

Hey, prophets are always warning us. We ignore them to our peril. Pat was right about illegal immigration, stock market bubble, unbalanced trade, homosexual practices are a no-no (Catholic Church already smacked), and also foreign entanglements will bring war to our shores. Pretty good record I'd say.

[ex-snook]

Hey Clemenza

In addition to these I want to add. Bush & Clinton saw tax cuts, balanced budget, tax cuts and unlimited spending for as far as the eye can see. Pat was not that 'optimistic' - so who was right.?

YOU "His doom and gloom didn't work in the early 90s and it won't work now. "

Hey, prophets are always warning us. We ignore them to our peril. Pat was right about illegal immigration, stock market bubble, unbalanced trade, homosexual practices are a no-no (Catholic Church already smacked), and also foreign entanglements will bring war to our shores. Pretty good record I'd say.

[JonH]

The link is dead, but I think if you read the estimates that have been making the rounds in the media carefully you might find that the numbers being quoted for Homeland Security are not incremental but rather include the budgets being transferred into the department from the various other government agencies. Regardless, it is a major commitment of taxpayer cash.

[meanspirit77]

The liberals in Cali and NY may not mind the invasion going on, living in their gated communites, but on the other side of those gates civil war, riots and revolution is on the horizon

Many of us living outside the gates await the days you describe. They shall beg for water and they will receive hell and a glass of vinegar. Hank Jr. got it right--Country Boys Will Survive!

On this day, be thankful for the 2nd as it will be our salvation.

[A. Pole]

A suggestion: stick to demographics rather than economics.

"Demographics"? ¿Habla Español?

[DownWithGreenspan]

"Very few move here from the rest of the US anymore."

It's a fact, L.A.'s new police chief notwithstanding. From 1990 to 2001, the population of California grew by about 629,000. Of that increase, about 374,000 is accounted for by births minus deaths. Another 344,000 was the net immigation increase. There was a net 89,000 loss from domestic migration - people leaving California to move to other states, thus, as some have mentioned, "Californicating" those states such as Nevada, Oregon, Montana, Utah and several others.

Just like that law of economics which state that "bad money drives out good money", there should be a law of demographics which states that the bad drives out the good, because it sure as hell is the truth, and not just in California. Anywhere in this country that immigration (i.e., invasion), legal or illegal, runs uncheked, Americans are voting with their feet and moving elsewhere, to some other county or some other state. Of course, it's not simply immigration that's destroying once-nice areas; we see the same effect from the "Californicating" itself, among other factors.

DWG

[billybudd]

Si, hablo un poco. By demographics, I was referencing Pat's book "Death of the West", in which he does a very good job of analyzing demographic shifts throughout the world. So I was saying, stick to what you're good at.

[DownWithGreenspan]

From 1990 to 2001

That should read: "From 2000 to 2001".

DWG