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To: an amused spectator
Ha! Well, crossing a land border is much easier than crossing an ocean and that is the sticky wicket. We have an endemic problem that won't be solved by erecting a wall. Constructing a plan that addresses the core issues, illegality, health, taxation, welfare (those whose problem is the color brown will never be satisified) without alienating, what is now and will be more so in the future, an important voting block, is the key. Conservatives cannot defeat liberalism without the hispanic vote. I'd rather compromise on a few issues and be sitting in the legislative, judicial and executive drivers seat than crying foul! in the wilderness. Call me a pragmatist, a sell out, whatever. Just call. Heheh...
131 posted on 11/26/2002 2:10:33 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
We have an endemic problem that won't be solved by erecting a wall.

You would fit right in with Virginia. Virginians traditionaly hate walls. I'm of the opposing view: walls make for good neighbors. IMHO, it's a fatal flaw of Virginia to hate walls. Walls symbolise conservatism. Strong defense. Clear cut property rights. Removing walls is, in fact, a big step toward communal living.

On the other hand, perhaps land mines would be even better.

137 posted on 11/26/2002 3:16:58 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Bob J
Conservatives cannot defeat liberalism without the hispanic vote.

The rats will always bid more of your tax money. If they want honey, they will keep voting for the rats. If they want to think long-term, they would vote GOP. I would not bet the farm on them thinking long term. There is another solution. Rather than trying to suck up to the illegals [because the rats can thrive off of the brown stuff a lot better than the GOP] why not cut off the flow? Cut off the flow of incoming rat voters, and walla! Problem solved. Keep sucking up for a few more years, you will be the backseat driver every time as far as immigrants are concerned, and rats are back in fashion again.

139 posted on 11/26/2002 3:28:19 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Bob J
We have an endemic problem that won't be solved by erecting a wall.

Actually, that is not accurate. The "Berlin Wall" worked pretty darn well for the Soviets. And actually they mined and guarded the whole border with NATO pretty well. There was some smuggling of people - but not much.

Fact is, if we bulldozed up a 50 foot earth berm along our southern border, then put down a few hundred thousand land mines and razor wire on the North side of the berm, and bulldozed up a 2nd earth berm and built a road on top of it for Hummers with .50 cal. machine gun patrols - why I bet you would cut the illegal immigration across the border quite sharply. Would cut down on some illegal drug transport as well.

The DMZ in Korea works pretty well too. So -- a "wall" would work -- if anyone had any balls to build one. Sounds like a good project for the HSA. If they don't do it, and just spend their money monitoring what Americans do with their spending and Internet traffic - well that will tell you one thing. If however they focus on stopping illegal border crossing - then that will tell us something else.

175 posted on 11/27/2002 9:24:32 PM PST by dark_lord
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