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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I think here you need to apply the principle that a broken clock is correct twice a day.

The Slimes may be using TIA for political purposes, but that should not blind us to what a bad idea it is. Unless you can somehow guarantee we won't have President Hillary or her equivalent, or, more concretely, that an FDR, LBJ, or Nixon will never again be President, it is very difficult to see how TIA is a good idea.

Moreover, if we had:

1. Followed existing policy and procedure for dealing with terrorists.

2. Infiltrated Wahabbi mosques the way we infiltrate neo-Nazi organizations and Christian Identity "churches," we would have been well on the way to contering the threat.

3. Properly managed our borders - not "sealed" them, whatever that may mean - but just carried out the mission of the Border Patrol and INS effectively, 9/11 would have been reduced or perhaps even prevented.

Instead we are asked to swallow crap like TIA. No thank you. Not without better performance from existing security functions.

36 posted on 11/26/2002 7:45:31 AM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
Instead we are asked to swallow crap like TIA. No thank you. Not without better performance from existing security functions.

First of all, the more I read up on TIA, the more I think the media has completely distorted that project. I work with large marketing databases for a living - and strongly believe the feds need to significantly improve their skills at analyzing their existing data stream. If TIA develops those tools within the federal realm, in a manner consistent with the Privacy Act of 1974, then it has the potential to do just that. If TIA seeks to build a massive transactional database, then I will have a serious problem with it, but I doubt that will ever happen - there is already a tremendous amount of resistance by the public to what the media has told them about TIA, and it will probably be severely curtailed.

40 posted on 11/26/2002 7:54:35 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: eno_
TIA is prohibited by the patriot act.
46 posted on 11/26/2002 8:08:29 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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