[blackdog]

My wife, who is a chemist, is damn tired of BS science being used by advocacy groups and an enabling media who asks for no relevant facts, data, or sources to the table, just scary claims, shocking accusations, and WAG'd numbers.

If 4000 chemicals are present in cigarette smoke, how many are present in the baseline air used? How many chemicals are present in the air while sitting at your computer?

I am no great fan of smoking. The only dog I have in this fight is the one that demands sound science. If I were a cigarette company, I would be suing these advocacy groups for false claims. What do they have to lose? They are already the villain in the first place.

This all started when Crest claimed "Three out of four dentists recommend Crest" back in the 60's. Well, three out of four lousy journalists who can kiss my A$$ would prefer I use Charmin(over using no toilet paper at all).

[AppyPappy]

Tobacco contains nicotine. That's poison enough. Smelling cigarette smoke will not hurt you. Being around copious amounts probably will. There is a balance there. The government has no business regulating it unless it harms kids. A woman who would rather smoke than see her child healthy is an abomination. I took one of these kids to the morgue once.

I smoked for 10 years. I know what cigarettes can do. I love cigars and I love pipes. But a cigarette is a nasty little instrument used merely to deliver death and disease to its user.

[SheLion]

If I were a cigarette company, I would be suing these advocacy groups for false claims. What do they have to lose? They are already the villain in the first place.

I often wonder this myself. But Big Tobacco fell to their knees in front of the Attorney Generals and now there isn't much Big T can do to defend themselves.

But the junk science put forth by the anti-smoking health groups is getting way out of hand, and the general public believes it.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Well, three out of four lousy journalists who can kiss my A$$ would prefer I use Charmin(over using no toilet paper at all).

We should find out who that fourth journalist is. He or she needs to see a physician. Or a psychotherapist. Or both.     =;^)

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

""My wife, who is a chemist, is damn tired of BS science being used by advocacy groups and an enabling media who asks for no relevant facts, data, or sources to the table, just scary claims, shocking accusations, and WAG'd numbers.""

Then she would also be tired of (like I am) the stupid junk science that is being used about the dioxin scare. It's costing jobs, livelihoods, and business profits.

[ggekko]

The important issue that the article highlights is the politically motivated use of junk science. Ralph Nader has established a series of innocuous sounding "consumer interest" lobbying entitities (e.g.: The Center for Science in the Public Interest ) that often commission "scientific" studies designed to butress some left-wing cuase or another.

This "research" is then used by the Plaintiff's bar to sue the pants off of effected industries. After successfully shaking down an industry with the threat of lawsuits, the trail attorneys kick back some of the money to Nader's organizations.

[Bogey]

My wife, who is a chemist, is damn tired of BS science being used by advocacy groups and an enabling media who asks for no relevant facts, data, or sources to the table, just scary claims, shocking accusations, and WAG'd numbers.

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The New England Journal of Medicine said the same thing about 3 months ago. They felt even the reports they publish
were not verified nearly enough.
If the health cartels don't have at least 5 scare of the day
articles, they have no purpose anymore.