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The risks of smoking are greatly exaggerated
TheRecord.com ^ | 20 November 2002 | ERIC BOYD

Posted on 11/26/2002 4:58:07 AM PST by SheLion

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To: FormerLurker
You mean like we who stuff our own?
341 posted on 11/27/2002 10:35:38 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Bogey
Your logic is that seeing that some cancers are not caused by smoking therefore no cancers are caused by smoking ? Interesting.
342 posted on 11/27/2002 10:37:29 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Dr. Luv
I love conspiracy theory articles, especially ones authored by "James P. Siepmann, MD". I'm sure he also believes the earth is flat, NASA really didn't go to the moon, poison contrails are killing us, crop circles were designed by bigfoot and that Elvis Presley and the Memphis Mafia formed the mysterious Templars of the Christian Brotherhood (TCB) to expose and foil the evil Helter Skelter Conspiracy.

Could you point out the specific sections of the article, with your counter-arguments, that make it a "conspiracy theory?"

Is your comment supposed to enhance your credibility or respect in our eyes?

343 posted on 11/27/2002 10:37:50 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Just another Joe
You mean like we who stuff our own?

You'd have to GROW your own tobacco to avoid the junk that's in ALL tobacco sold today..

344 posted on 11/27/2002 10:42:34 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Publius6961
Someone with such a moronic name is a superior life form?

Point taken.

345 posted on 11/27/2002 10:42:35 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: golder
None of the people you're talking about can change a tire, fix a faucet, change their oil, make emergency roof repairs, properly clean a weapon and could not, in their wildest dreams, serve a party of eight their different meals and drinks all at once.

But people like you, who have made a lifetime pursuit out of being a proud, independent restauranteur/saloonkeeper are like so much dirt under their nails.

I salute you, sir and fart in their general direction.

346 posted on 11/27/2002 10:55:28 AM PST by metesky
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To: FormerLurker
You'd have to GROW your own tobacco to avoid the junk that's in ALL tobacco sold today..

No, not really.
Although I HAVE been considering that also.

347 posted on 11/27/2002 10:56:38 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Dr. Luv
James P. Siepmann, MD, editor of Journal of Theoretics

Probably a little deep for a mere oncologist.

348 posted on 11/27/2002 11:03:23 AM PST by metesky
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To: VRWC_minion
My children and wife told me when I used to smoke.

Is that the wife that dumped you when she came out of the ether and saw what a clymer you were (and are)?

349 posted on 11/27/2002 11:07:03 AM PST by metesky
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To: SheLion; Dr. Luv
Hey, thanks, another report! I found a report that says the Pope is not Catholic & another one that said wild bears do not sh*t in the woods. Imagine that! Oh how wrong I have been. LOL Happy Thanksgiving!
350 posted on 11/27/2002 11:09:46 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Dr. Luv
Are all your patients self-medicating in your overcrowded waiting room while you're f*cking around on the internet?
351 posted on 11/27/2002 11:37:39 AM PST by metesky
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To: VRWC_minion
Actually my logic is that you have non smokers and smokers get lung cancer. I question how it is determined that both didn't get it from other risk factors.. To blame smoking is convenient, but doesn't do crap for the non smoker.
If smoking causes cancer, it should cause it anywhere, and there is no documentation to show that.
Colon cancer is very low in smokers. So is breast cancer.
10% of smokers get lung cancer. You have more than 10% of all drivers killed every year.
Smoking has become a convenient way to cover up the fact that we are no closer to the truth on cancer or heart disease than we were 50 years ago.
Maybe if the ACS would spend more than 15% of their billions on research instead of salaries we might get some progress.
352 posted on 11/27/2002 12:38:17 PM PST by Bogey
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To: Bogey
If smokinggeting shot causes cancer terminal bleeding, it should cause it anywhere, and there is no documentation to show that.

No everyone that gets shot dies from it, therefore getting shot doesn't cause death. Interesting logic. Is it remotely possible that as an addict, you might not let yourself look at things realistically ?

353 posted on 11/27/2002 1:42:28 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
BUMP
354 posted on 11/27/2002 2:05:21 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Madame Dufarge
In short, I would rather live my life than yours.

Do it - hack-cough-sniffle. :~)

355 posted on 11/27/2002 3:38:41 PM PST by verity
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To: verity
Do it - hack-cough-sniffle. :~)

Do it - snivel, grovel, whine. :-)

356 posted on 11/27/2002 3:50:28 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: AppyPappy
I suppose you are okay with people beating their spouses and kids as long as the government doesn't stop it. ...Hyperbole goes both ways.

My statement is not hyperbole; it is current fascist planning. Yours, on the other hand, is since "beating" spouses and kids causes demonstrable damage. Parental smoking is no more than a RISK, a negligible risk at that, and the anti goal of removing smokers' children or forcing parents to quit smoking is ludicrous.

357 posted on 11/27/2002 5:27:08 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: laredo44
Well said. Thank you.
358 posted on 11/27/2002 5:29:46 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: FormerLurker
Smoking WOULD be safe if they didn't add pesticide and other toxins to the tobacco. It IS those chemicals that pose a health risk, not the tobacco itself..

Sorry to disappoint you, but my bags of tobacco are chemical free. My bags of tobacco are PURE TOBACCO.

Thank you!

359 posted on 11/27/2002 7:15:28 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I am not an anti smoking fanatic. As I originally stated, I believe your have a right to do as you wish. Smoke unfiltered Camels by the carton, I'll even defend your right to do so in a bar or restaurant, or any oautdoor venue. If you recognise the health hazard an choose to smoke anyway, good luck. But those who then clain that there is NO risk in the behavior are just flat out wrong.
360 posted on 11/27/2002 7:31:18 PM PST by Kozak
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