[Old philosopher]

All of you Bush Bots are, and will be in denial on this subject!

Do you really believe that all of the new powers given to the Elite Political Estblishment will be used with restraint? Dream on! With the govenment tracking your every move, you will soon be as enslaved as the Germans were under Hitler, or the Russians were under the Communists. Who is to determine which of the records they keep on you will be used to deprive you of your rights (if you have any left), or to declare you a criminal, put you in prison to remain there until some other party comes to power that might set you free? The JBT will be in charge, and experience, as well as history, shows that when small minds acquire a little power, they tend to abuse it.

You three as well as the rest of the Bush Bots should take the time to study History (a subject rarely taught in schools these days), and learn how the abuse of power comes about, and also how seldom Liberties and Freedoms, once given up, are ever re-acquired.

At the present some of those of the Liberal Extraction are worrying about the loss of Freedom and Liberty, but that is only because they are not currently in power. What do you suppose will happen if and when they regain power? Do you believe that they will not abuse these new powers granted under the guise of "National Security? And when you are on the other side will you still feel that you have not lost any freedoms when the JBT's come for You? I suggest that you lookup the comment of Pastor Niemoller when asked why he and others did nothing to stop the Nazi's. Perhaps I should quote it for those of you who are unable, unwilling or too lazy to take the time to look up this now famous quotation.

"First they came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me."

As I said earlier, learn a little History before you start to flame me for speaking the truth.

[Southack]

"All of you Bush Bots are, and will be in denial on this subject!"

Oh, do grow up old man.

I'm not the one running around like Chicken Little claiming that some unmentioned "freedoms" have been suddenly stolen from me, but you sure are doing that very thing.

Come on, be a man and have the guts to either mention the SPECIFIC freedom/liberty that was stolen, or else admit that you are simply full of hyperbole.

[Reagan Man]

With all due respect, I think you should change your screename to "Old Fart". Your accusations are outrageous and outlandish.

>>>... you will soon be as enslaved as the Germans were under Hitler, or the Russians were under the Communists.

I think you might even be a disruptor. Is that you Arator?

[Cultural Jihad]

"But some people simply insist on arguing in bad faith. Too many conservatives and libertarians are simply married to the idea that we must be losing our liberties because, hey, if we're not, I have no excuse to be so angry." posted here

[sinkspur]

With the govenment tracking your every move, you will soon be as enslaved as the Germans were under Hitler, or the Russians were under the Communists.

...As I said earlier, learn a little History before you start to flame me for speaking the truth.

And, as I said earlier, some seniors think wisdom automatically comes with old age.

Some seniors are wise, some drool.

In my experience, more drool than are wise, and this thread proves it.

[nopardons]

Into your second childhood, are you ? Losing your memory too ?

At the ripe old age of 78, surely you remember WW II; don't you ? Were you complaining, back then, about all the loses of your freedoms ? Did you or your parents buy blackmarket silk stockings, meat, shoes, rubber tires, and gasoline, when you weren't allowed to ? Did you have a hissyfit over blackout curtains ? Did you refuse to save newspapers, animal fat, and not turning iron % tin, for the war effort ? Come on...fess up.

[Fred Mertz]

With the govenment tracking your every move, you will soon be as enslaved as the Germans were under Hitler, or the Russians were under the Communists.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. It hasn't fallen entirely on deaf ears. Some readers will get it.

[dirtboy]

All of you Bush Bots are, and will be in denial on this subject! Do you really believe that all of the new powers given to the Elite Political Estblishment will be used with restraint?

Well, then, why don't you identify these new powers, with section number, so we can discuss them?