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How about posting the number of Americans who have had property seized in the WOD without ever having charges filed against them?

Besides, we have seen that GWB is an honorable man. What happens when we get another unprincipled person like clintoon in the Oval Office? You cannot grant power to a good and decent president without granting that same power to a hopelessly corrupt and evil president.

"You cannot grant power to a good and decent president without granting that same power to a hopelessly corrupt and evil president."

Exactly. Americans have far more to lose therefore have far more to protect. The rest of the world is either pitfully hopeless or at least moderately socialist. We would be too if the 'kooks' weren't constantly thinking out of the box. And who can quantatatively, based on the last century, demonstrate America hasn't already slid to a point of near-no return?

The more I here of the so-called 'kooks' and the concerns they raise, the more I seek to find if there is any validity.

For every handful of bogus or flawed contentions that the 'kooks' float, deeper research and investigation reveals a real danger to the American notion of individual liberty, national sovereignty and long term constitutional viability.

Good people rise to office to act positively and, conversely, bad people lust for power and attain it with disasterous results.

How many cotton-pickin' examples in history does one have to point to?

The arrogance of some to dismiss the dynamic, non-statist thinkers is the end of a society and will be the end of America.

From first hand experience, I can assure you that the two parties and their alphabetocracy have concocted, and in some cases attempted, numerous un-Constitutional, disastrous initiatives with, again in some cases, results very detrimental to the America that has thrived and now is in grave danger.