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Bush to Sign Homeland Security Bill
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| Monday, November 25, 2002
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Posted on 11/25/2002 9:12:06 AM PST by Sparta
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A sad day for freedom in America.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:12:06 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: Sparta
Imagine certain aspects in this Act in the hands of the Clinton-Reno Justice Department.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:17:15 AM PST
by
cardinal4
To: Sparta
Maybe. But a bright day for coordination of intelligence and routing out terrorist scum from our woodwork.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:21:06 AM PST
by
Victor
To: Sparta
And a sad day for boards like this one. It's not much of a stretch that this could be deemed a "gathering place for terrorists" by future administrations. It's sad that republican cheerleaders are too short sighted to realize that it will happen.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:24:03 AM PST
by
mysterio
To: Victor
How in the hell will the department coordinate anything without the CIA or FBI in the department? Also, what in the hell will this do for the situation on our borders?
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:25:26 AM PST
by
Sparta
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To: Sparta
War on Terror bump !
To: Aldous Huxley
"....Today terrorist scum, tomorrow your children. Enjoy the sunlight while you may....."
You know what? If you're not a terrorist, and you keep your nose clean, basically a law-abiding citizen and still entitled to your Constitutional rights....why do you fear so???
Look, we need coordinated effort to go after the enemy that is already here. The Washington establishment was so hopelessly mired down that it was paralyzed in many respects. What Bush wants/needs is a fast-response (read:non-union) organization. This will lead to the non-unionization of other Federal agencies, IMHO. Why are you so afraid of that?
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:32:35 AM PST
by
Victor
To: Sparta
A sad day for freedom in America.Actually, this bill is fairly tame compared to the Patriot Act. I've read much of H.R. 5710, and now I'm gonna read the bill as actually signed by Bush - there are a few stinkers in this, but critics have also several exaggerated much of what is in this bill.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:35:37 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: Sparta
Let the spying on law-abiding citizens commence!
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:36:06 AM PST
by
ppaul
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To: potterman
"...It does not emmediately shut off the borders and sweep the country for illegals and get them out of here...."
What happens to the INS under this Bill? Is the INS being routed under Homeland Security?
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:43:27 AM PST
by
Victor
To: Victor
But a bright day for coordination of intelligence and routing out terrorist scum from our woodworkWith the INS intentionally releasing captured illegals, I doubt that the Vaterland, err, Homeland Defense Dept. will do much to either prevent terrorism (an impossibility) or expel terrorists who have been captured.
To: Victor
What happens to the INS under this Bill? Is the INS being routed under Homeland Security?Section 471 of this Act elimated the INS and replaced it with two agencies - the Bureau of Border Security and the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration, which are both part of the new Department.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:46:45 AM PST
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dirtboy
To: cardinal4
Imagine certain aspects in this Act in the hands of the Clinton-Reno Justice Department..
And you think Bush and his henchmen will NOT screw over anyone...??? Yeah...Right..!!!
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:51:42 AM PST
by
freddy
To: Sparta
A sad day for freedom in America. God help us all.
To: dirtboy
"...Section 471 of this Act elimated the INS and replaced it with two agencies - the Bureau of Border Security and the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration, which are both part of the new Department..."
Thanks, didn't know that. Well, I see it as a way to get the corrupt, union-infested INS out of the way and a more effective law enforcement dealing with this out-of-control immigration situation.
I'll really start cheering if I see these boys close the borders and start rounding up Muslims.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:52:03 AM PST
by
Victor
To: Sparta
Also, what in the hell will this do for the situation on our borders?
Good question... why don't you go read Title IV of the HSA, HR 5005 and see what it says.... Maybe it's all paper shuffling and nothing will be accomplished in the field.
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posted on
11/25/2002 9:52:48 AM PST
by
deport
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