Posted on 11/24/2002 12:42:46 AM PST by MadIvan
This rant reminds me of a skit I once read in one of the "Monty Python" books. The exact details of the skit escape me but it was a satire on violence and those who perpetrate it. It went like this;
The best form of defence is attack. And the most vital element of attack is surprise. So attack your opponent before he attacks you. Even better. You can render your assailant unconscious before he is even aware of your very existence."
This seems to be bin Laden's mantra. His unbridled aggression and hatred is now being cloaked in the mantra of "self-defence."
"We're just defending ourselves."
"Against whom?"
" Well anyone who's not Islamic."
" But they haven't done anything to you."
" Well they will. Or they might. So let's kill them all first."
Using this kind of logic, it's not hard to see that any form of barbarity can be justified.
we should all do our part to help the entire nation of islam kill itself, since they are so eager,
Because there are ladies present, and what I really think, I wouldn't want to say in front of them. ;)
It does bear some similarity to this:
How yet resolves the governor of the town?
This is the latest parle we will admit;
Therefore to our best mercy give yourselves;
Or like to men proud of destruction
Defy us to our worst: for, as I am a soldier,
A name that in my thoughts becomes me best,
If I begin the battery once again,
I will not leave the half-achieved Harfleur
Till in her ashes she lie buried.
The gates of mercy shall be all shut up,
And the flesh'd soldier, rough and hard of heart,
In liberty of bloody hand shall range
With conscience wide as hell, mowing like grass
Your fresh-fair virgins and your flowering infants.
What is it then to me, if impious war,
Array'd in flames like to the prince of fiends,
Do, with his smirch'd complexion, all fell feats
Enlink'd to waste and desolation?
What is't to me, when you yourselves are cause,
If your pure maidens fall into the hand
Of hot and forcing violation?
What rein can hold licentious wickedness
When down the hill he holds his fierce career?
We may as bootless spend our vain command
Upon the enraged soldiers in their spoil
As send precepts to the leviathan
To come ashore. Therefore, you men of Harfleur,
Take pity of your town and of your people,
Whiles yet my soldiers are in my command;
Whiles yet the cool and temperate wind of grace
O'erblows the filthy and contagious clouds
Of heady murder, spoil and villany.
If not, why, in a moment look to see
The blind and bloody soldier with foul hand
Defile the locks of your shrill-shrieking daughters;
Your fathers taken by the silver beards,
And their most reverend heads dash'd to the walls,
Your naked infants spitted upon pikes,
Whiles the mad mothers with their howls confused
Do break the clouds, as did the wives of Jewry
At Herod's bloody-hunting slaughtermen.
What say you? will you yield, and this avoid,
Or, guilty in defence, be thus destroy'd?
Regards, Ivan
We are glad the Dauphin is so pleasant with us;
His present and your pains we thank you for:
When we have march'd our rackets to these balls,
We will, in France, by God's grace, play a set
Shall strike his father's crown into the hazard.
Tell him he hath made a match with such a wrangler
That all the courts of France will be disturb'd
With chases. And we understand him well,
How he comes o'er us with our wilder days,
Not measuring what use we made of them.
We never valued this poor seat of England;
And therefore, living hence, did give ourself
To barbarous licence; as 'tis ever common
That men are merriest when they are from home.
But tell the Dauphin I will keep my state,
Be like a king and show my sail of greatness
When I do rouse me in my throne of France:
For that I have laid by my majesty
And plodded like a man for working-days,
But I will rise there with so full a glory
That I will dazzle all the eyes of France,
Yea, strike the Dauphin blind to look on us.
And tell the pleasant prince this mock of his
Hath turn'd his balls to gun-stones; and his soul
Shall stand sore charged for the wasteful vengeance
That shall fly with them: for many a thousand widows
Shall this his mock, mock out of their dear husbands;
Mock mothers from their sons, mock castles down;
And some are yet ungotten and unborn
That shall have cause to curse the Dauphin's scorn.
But this lies all within the will of God,
To whom I do appeal; and in whose name
Tell you the Dauphin I am coming on,
To venge me as I may and to put forth
My rightful hand in a well-hallow'd cause
. So get you hence in peace; and tell the Dauphin
His jest will savour but of shallow wit,
When thousands weep more than did laugh at it.
Convey them with safe conduct. Fare you well.
Regards, Ivan
Hell has a King and he is using OBL to feed his own agenda.......
Good letter. Accurate and inclusive.
What say you? will you yield, and this avoid, Or, guilty in defence, be thus destroy'd?
The only problem with this question is that it assumes that the one being asked is a human being. As you stated in your "open letter to bin dyin".......he is an IDIOT with camel fertilizer between his ears. And Saddamned is just like him. These "humans" lost their souls long ago.
We didn't do anything to them. They're in the thrall of a death cult. They have no civilization, no culture, no aspirations beyond death. They're rotting from the inside and trying to take us with them.
We couldn't reason with Japanese kamakazi pilots and we won't reason with Islamists. They've sunk too low. I hope the West is willing to use the level of force-- shock -- necessary to bring them up to a respect for life.
Muslims don't need grievances to justify killing non believers. Just follow the religion to the letter and do what Allah wants done.
Muslims are not here on this earth to make nice with infidels. They are here to do the work of God. - Tom
Other “unnamed sources” speaking in “strict confidentiality” will then corroborate it.
And thus, it will become truth.
What did we do to him?
The more I look at it, the more I think he's been a secret Iraqi agent all this time. Why? Because everything he's done has been in support of Iraq's interests.
He was originally angry at the Saudis for inviting Americans into his country to defend against Iraq, instead of letting him do the defending. He had an elaborate and implausible plan to use earthmoving equipment and the mujheeden to create a defense against Iraq. I would have been very surprised if it would have worked against the Iraqis, which is why the Saudis chose us to defend their land. This setback appears to have really, really pissed him off.
That's the original sin. Everything else, including sympathy for the Palastinians, is window dressing.
Now he talks about the Iraqi sanctions. How convenient for Saddam.
So, to summarize, he advocated a defence plan that probably would not have worked against Iraq, and his big causes are Palastinians and the Iraqi sanctions. Everything he's done has supported Iraq in some way or another.
Incidentally, the Saudis know that low oil prices are in their best interests. If oil prices are high, we simply reduce our use of oil. So if bin Laden should be mad at one entity for low oil prices, it's the Saudis.
I am frankly puzzled by his actions, since I don't think he would have had that much trouble taking over the Saudi government and re-making it in his own image (which isn't that different from where it is now, except he would be in power instead of them).
But he chose to attack the US instead, and that's not going to fly. By now, I would have thought he'd know this.
D
I think we were supposed to pay for the oil, then let them keep it.
Apparently, we
a)failed to accept Islam and Sharia law,
b)refused to allow Arabs to commit genocide against the Jews.
c)Bought oil from Arab countries at market prices
d) Charge interest on loans.
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