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Bush to push for amnesty
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, November 23, 2002 | By Jerry Seper

Posted on 11/22/2002 10:47:08 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Bush administration wants to grant amnesty to hundreds of thousands of Mexican illegal aliens now in the United States, according to the new U.S. ambassador to Mexico.

Tony Garza, sworn in this week at the White House, told reporters in Mexico City that reaching an accord legalizing the status of Mexican immigrants

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To: nanny
Does it seem to you that our economy is actually going backwards by substituting "cheap" labor for mechanization?
261 posted on 11/23/2002 12:54:46 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: Dog Gone
[Some here maintain that Mexican laborers are not needed at all. The facts indicate otherwise, because employers wouldn't be hiring them if they weren't needed.]

I hate to keep harping ont his - but they are hired because they are subsidized by taxpayers. If the employer had to withhold and match taxes, provide workman's comp, and they or the employer had to provide medical expense, believe me there would not be as many 'needed'. They are a great bargain to employers - thanks to the taxpayers of this country.

262 posted on 11/23/2002 12:55:46 PM PST by nanny
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To: Dog Gone
I want someone here at FR to tell us how they were beat out of a job by an illegal alien. Can anyone here do it, or is this just a fake argument?

Yes, you are presenting a fake argument. Did anyone reading this thread lose an immediate family member when the WTC was attacked by the Islamonazis? Does that mean that no one died in the collapse of the WTC!? Your argument isn't just fake, it is idiotic.

263 posted on 11/23/2002 12:56:39 PM PST by Spiff
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To: sarcasm
[Does it seem to you that our economy is actually going backwards by substituting "cheap" labor for mechanization? ]

Absolutely.

264 posted on 11/23/2002 12:58:26 PM PST by nanny
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To: nanny
When you find that state with few illegals to settle in, let some of us know where in the world it is.
265 posted on 11/23/2002 12:58:43 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: nanny
Good points....I've hired them myself and for those reasons.

Even though I'm very disturbed by this avalanche of the third world hitting our shores. Are we expected to just take in everybody?
266 posted on 11/23/2002 1:00:36 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Jennikins
Where are we going to go now that more and more are coming from all over the world, not only Mexico.

At first I thought Americans might flee to Canada or someplace like that when things got bad enough, but what the Tombstone Tumbleweed did recently with its call to arms has completely changed my opinion:

Americans will and are ready to fight back against the invasion.

267 posted on 11/23/2002 1:02:28 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Spiff
Yes, you are presenting a fake argument. Did anyone reading this thread lose an immediate family member when the WTC was attacked by the Islamonazis? Does that mean that no one died in the collapse of the WTC!? Your argument isn't just fake, it is idiotic.

That was 2000 people, brainiac. If illegal aliens had only taken 2000 jobs in this country, your response would have been intelligent.

268 posted on 11/23/2002 1:05:33 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: wardaddy
I've hired them myself and for those reasons.

So, you are admitting to knowingly committing a federal offense? Maybe the INS would be interested in more information about you. If you do it again I hope you get caught. People like you are a significant part of the problem.

269 posted on 11/23/2002 1:06:13 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Mark Felton
Easiest way to flush them out is to yell out "Bush is pro-constitution!" , then they'll come wandering over to you saying things like "for sure", "amen" and "absotively or positlutely" (I "shoot" those latter ones first).

HeHee!

271 posted on 11/23/2002 1:09:59 PM PST by carenot
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To: tgslTakoma
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272 posted on 11/23/2002 1:11:35 PM PST by stand watie
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To: Mark Felton
Easiest way to flush them out is to yell out "Bush is pro-constitution!" , then they'll come wandering over to you saying things like "for sure", "amen" and "absotively or positlutely" (I "shoot" those latter ones first).

HeHee!

273 posted on 11/23/2002 1:12:02 PM PST by carenot
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To: patriciaruth
More and more we are going to be seeing articles with a thrust of dividing President Bush from his base of support as the Dems are going to be increasingly desperate.

I'm not going to let these people jerk my chain all the time. I'm going to wait until the President actually does something, and judge him on the act, not the rumor, because there are going to be plenty of rumors.

You're right. Reading the article, I don't see where it actually says Bush is currently pushing for amnesty. It's more about Garza paying lip service to these Mexicans. The part about "when the economy gets better" is suspect too. It's as if he is just putting them off. I would prefer stronger language from the U.S. about this, though. The public tide is turning more and more against these illegal, criminal mooching invaders and I hope the President realizes it.

274 posted on 11/23/2002 1:12:06 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Dog Gone
"I want someone here at FR to tell us how they were beat out of a job by an illegal alien."

Another strawman?

So, we're better educated here at FR than average and have better jobs and incomes. If none of us has been beat out of a job, that means no American has?

Do you believe that when your taxes are raised that your net income isn't reduced?

Do you believe we're not all adversely affected by a $6 Trillion dollar and growing National Debt?

275 posted on 11/23/2002 1:12:29 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: eldoradude
I like GWB & think he's doing a fine job in a lot of areas. BUT!!! What the F is he thinking regarding "amnesty"? What part of 'illegal' immigrant is so hard to understand? It's about sovereignty, stupid. Why waste billions on Homeland Security spying on citizens when it would be much more cost effective and productive to have secure borders. America First!

If Dubya pushes Amnesty through AND/OR does not secure our borders I will vote for ANYONE that runs against him. And I do mean ANYONE. I do not see America surviving if we continue to leave the borders open. Thus, I have no choice but to vote against Dubya if he doesn't enforce the will of the people.

276 posted on 11/23/2002 1:16:53 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Dog Gone
Name the jobs that illegals have that you want.

A simple enough one would be construction jobs. In my area since Clinton has been in office these have gone from a 95% + white workforce to an almost completely illegal alien workforce. Now I dont know about you but I find it hard to imagine that all those white workers suddenly felt that construction work was too lowly.

So do we care about the rule of law that protects our society or are republicans just better than everyone else much like democrats?

277 posted on 11/23/2002 1:18:30 PM PST by PuNcH
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To: patriciaruth
I'm not going to let these people jerk my chain all the time. I'm going to wait until the President actually does something, and judge him on the act, not the rumor, because there are going to be plenty of rumors.

Excellent point. Until Bush actually grants amnesty, no reason to blame him. But, we might as well keep our voices heard and help him understand the outcome of such action.

278 posted on 11/23/2002 1:18:34 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: madfly; Sabertooth
The more and more I read words from Fox, the more I believe he is mentally unstable.
279 posted on 11/23/2002 1:21:36 PM PST by rintense
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To: Spiff
Send the INS up to Michigan where the majority of migrant farmers are illegals as well.
280 posted on 11/23/2002 1:22:42 PM PST by rintense
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