Posted on 11/22/2002 8:42:49 PM PST by Davea
Roswell Incident Had Victims, Program Says
By RICHARD BENKE | The Associated Press 11/22/2002
ALBUQUERQUE - While he told the world that a weather balloon went down in Roswell, an Army general had in his hand a memo telling Pentagon brass of a UFO crash with "victims," according to a new television documentary.
A computer analysis of that memo, held by Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey during a July 1947 press briefing, is the "smoking gun" of the Roswell Incident, researchers say in the documentary being broadcast today on the Sci-Fi Channel.
Using a digital photo scanner to enlarge and enhance words printed on the folded piece of paper Ramey held, and using another computer program to select the most likely words, researcher David Rudiak, who has a Ph.D. in physics from UC Berkeley, found two key phrases: "the victims of the wreck" and "in the 'disc' they will ship."
With the textual study plus University of New Mexico archaeological findings from one of three alleged UFO crash sites, science fiction seeks to close the gap with fact, producers say.
A photograph taken July 8, 1947, in Fort Worth, Texas, by James Bond Johnson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram shows Ramey clutching a communique to Washington, D.C., while he displays a deflated weather balloon just hours after other Army officers in Roswell had reported a UFO crash.
It was one of a series of inconsistent military reports about the incident, which has become part of American mythology.
"Unless national security is at stake, there is absolutely no reason to keep this information from the public," said Thomas Vitale, a Sci-Fi Channel vice president. "Whatever crashed at Roswell, let us know what the truth is."
The Air Force had responded to a 1994 call from the late U.S. Rep. Steve Schiff, R-N.M., by saying it had no information on the Roswell Incident. Schiff, an Air Force reserve judge advocate general's officer, then took his query to the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
In 1997, the Air Force acknowledged the weather balloon had been a false cover story, but a new story also was called into question. In a report written by Lt. William McAndrew, the Air Force suggested reports of alien bodies in the wreckage must have originated because of a crash-test program in which mannequins were dropped from balloons. The mannequins did not come close to matching 1947 descriptions of alien bodies, and the crash-test program was not introduced until 1953, Rudiak said.
Sci-Fi, guided by longtime Roswell UFO researchers Tom Carey and Don Schmitt, commissioned William Doleman, an archaeologist with UNM's Maxwell Museum of Anthropology, to excavate the alleged initial crash contact point on the ranch where the late Mack Brazel worked as foreman.
Doleman said he knows little about the Roswell Incident but agreed to excavate the site using purely scientific methods because it is "culturally significant" and because so much of what is circulated about the Roswell crash landing is based on hearsay. What was needed, Doleman said, was physical evidence.
"So this project is a very bold step by people who claim to know what happened and where it happened," Doleman said. "What makes it bold is they were willing to go out there and look for physical evidence."
Details of the excavation are being kept confidential until after today's premiere. But Doleman said he agrees "that obviously something happened in July 1947 in southeastern New Mexico." After his work there, though, he said, "I'm still uncertain" about UFOs and alien beings.
The documentary will introduce some witnesses who have not been heard from publicly before, attesting to the existence of alien bodies in the wreckage of the "flying disc," Carey said by phone from his home in Pennsylvania.
"This is where we loaded the bodies," he quotes one New Mexico witness, Robert Slusher, as saying. Slusher, among those appearing in the documentary, was part of a B-29 crew that he said loaded bodies up through the plane's bomb bay at the Roswell Army Airfield.
Three victims were supposedly recovered from the final crash site, and a team of archaeologists, coincidentally, were in the area doing research on ancient Indians at the time, Carey said. Among them was Curry Holden, an archaeologist from Texas Tech in Lubbock, whom Carey located in 1992.
"Curry Holden said he saw everything - the craft and the bodies," Carey said. Holden died a few months later.
Carey, an investigator for a private corporation, said he started looking into Roswell 12 years ago "as a hobby."
But it became more than that. And now, he said, he and Schmitt are in a race against time, as witnesses become scarcer.
©Santa Fe New Mexican 2002
lol, but what else comes close to explaining the likes of Lil' Tommy Daschle than a human/alien hybrid?
Meanwhile over 200 unknowns a month are reported on ndx, by reliable citizens. Nothing ever goes beyond local news coverage nowadays, of course.
Some years back at our church, someone mentioned a local sighting. One elder said, "If so, there goes our religion." I responded with, "It doesn't do anything to MY religion." Whereupon the Pastor said, "I would tell them about Jesus Christ."
In the KJV Bible, there is a text that says, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." This is a mistranslation. The Greek says, "Go ye into all the COSMOS, and preach the gospel to every creature." Yes, the whole bar scene in Star Wars, if it comes to that.
PS/ You know all the hype about "diversity"? This all began with the abduction of a 16-yr-old Canadian girl in 1959, whose ET captors told her how important diversity was and went into quite some detail. Virtual every buzzword buzzing in our ears since 1947 has buzzed directly from ET sources, to our media and Hollywood and education systems.
Hmmm...you seem to have a great deal of information. Perhaps you would care to chat with me and Mulder at some future date about these insectoids?
This is very curious to me. I have heard others saying the same things, that their religion would be compromised by the discovery of life elsewhere in the Universe...and I wonder, where is their faith? If they believe in an omnipotent God who created everything (and can do whatever he pleases), why should we be the only life he created? Very odd indeed...
That at least did go crash at Roswell in 1947!
PS/To see recent sightings by month, usually 200 or 300 a month, in the words of the witnesses themselves, check out
http://nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html
Outside Roswell, the monument put up in July 1997 says:
We don't know who they were
We don't know why they came
We only know our view of the universe
Will never be the same.
"Dedicated July 1997 to the beings that met their destinies in July 1947 outside Roswell, New Mexico."
http://nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html
Blessings,
Construction of the Dulce base (or extensions of it, I ought to say) were responsible for the so-called Durango Hum of those and earlier years.
For a time, the Greys were expelled from Archuleta Mesa but are now returned to the deeper levels so I am told. (at least 7 layers to the cake there)
Try any Hebrew concordance under the word Olam and its plural, Olamim. "planet, planetary conjunction or clash"
This word is often translated "eternal" or "everlasting" in the KJV so that is a code-word. There are others.
Bible refers to "the heat sources of Olam," a specific planet where it is nowhere near a star and has its own internal heat.
Bible says, "Cursed be Meroz, and cursed be its inhabitants."
In the Book of Job, a heavenly congress assembles with a representative from each planet, and Satan [as God of This World] attends on behalf of Earth...
As to the Tunnels and Vats question, the Bible says "The dark places of the Earth are full of the Habitations of Cruelty."
The contents of the stinking vats are said to include not just slaughterhouse by products from our vast beef industry, but also abortion by products from our vast fetal tissue industry. It was in order to get the promised amounts of fetal tissue we had to give them under the various Greada treaties (1954 and amendments over 20 yrs+) as amended, that ROE ever had to WADE if you see what I mean.
"But woe unto you Earth and Sea, for the Devil has COME DOWN TO YOU having great wrath, for he knows he has only a short time."
Thus Sin and the Devil did not originate on Earth. "and there was war IN HEAVEN, and Michael and his angels fought, and the Devil fought, and his angels."
The only Hebrew word for "heaven" is ha-shmayim, which means not so much a place of paradise or peaceful reward, as a certain area right here in the Solar System aka known as the Asteroid Belt, rakiya, or Bracelet.
This is related to the Heb. mayim, water... which didn't use to be in here this close to the sun [in this quantity], and must have come or fallen in from there.
This also relates to the present desolate and uninhabited, destroyed, condition of Mars, of which we are kabbalistically told, "What Earth is, Mars once Was. What Mars is, Earth will Be."
Refs. to book of Peter in NT, which says this earth will be incinerated. Isaiah, says the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous.
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