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To: Hermann the Cherusker
You're using BEN FRANKLIN as an " expert " on race , genetics,anthropology, and the gene pool ? That's the funniest thing I have yet to see , here, and I've seen some doozies !

You've changed your tune, now, by claiming that the English hodge-podge is because of " cousins " intermarrying. You managed to completely omit the Eastern Euros, on the first round, and now, NOW, you're claiming that you can " easily " differenciate ALL of the various ethnic groups, wherever you may be, with absolutely no trouble; not ever. Do you also guess weights at fun fairs ?

The British Isles have been SO overrun, from time immemorial, by all sorts of different peoples / ethnicities, that you'd be hard pressed to find the prototypical " Englishman " ! The Fox brothers look distinctly German, Lawrence Olivier looked NOTHING at all like them; yet they're all Brits. How about the German House of Windsor bunch? Do all of them look out of place in England ? I can go on and on, giving you example after another, and you'd still ignore the facts. LOL

Let's see, Sean Connery is a Scot. So was King James I. They look alike ?

Many Spanish people are blonde and blue eyed. The Spainish; however, were invaded and intermarried with Italians, Germans, Austrians. Were ALL of those ethnicities also " cousins " ? The ancient Romans didn't seem to think that the Germans were much like them at all.

As for the term NORDIC, that has always been used to describe Scandinavians ; you know, folks from Norway and Sweden. The Danes too.

All peoples, from any one specific nation, don't look alike. You're steriotyping and I doubt that you could accurately guess, who was from where, originally, if they kept their mouths shut, from a grouping of several Euro countries. I could easily dig up a group of Germans,Brits, Americans, Spaniards, and even Italians, stick 500 head shots on a board, and you couldn't properly label just who was what, with a 40 % accuracy level. WHY ? Because with millenia of travel and intermarriage, there are few people, on the entire planet, who are of one, pure ( you just keep verging into rather strange waters ! )ethnic type.

I can tell the difference amongst Chinese ( and whether they are from the North or the South )and Japanese, and Korean. Most people have some trouble with that. I can sometimes tell the ethnicities of people I don't know ; but not always. There aren't such hard and fast rules anymore.

You don't want your theoretical ( I assume you have none yet ) children and grandchildren to marry a Greek or Albanian, or goodness knows what else, because you want some imagined " ideal " blonde, blue eyed, " pure " progeny. That's okay; however, you can't regulate other's choices as easily as you concietedly claim you can. If your child meets and falls in love with an American of Greek heritage, let's say, and is an adult, you're going to do exactly what ? Disinherit him or her ? Or just raise your kids to be bigots ? Oh and BTW, there are still a LOT of blonde ( born that way ) Greeks.

RH- was NOT always a Caucazoid majority and yes, you DID so imply; earlier on.

Just keep on digging that hole, dear. You're just too witless to stop. LOL

161 posted on 11/23/2002 11:08:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
A stereotype is a general truth. One can always find exceptions to it. The fact that they are exceptions proves the stereotype in the general case. This should suffice to answer must of the drivel in your last post.

Rh- blood was clearly much more predominant in all Europeans 2000 years ago, just like blonde and red hair and blue eyes were. It has tended over time to die out because it is a recessive trait.

I'm still waiting to hear just who all these vastly different people invading Britain were. Last time I travelled the North Sea coast, people in Antwerp, Frisia and Hamburg and Oslo looked pretty darn similar. And gosh if they didn't look similar to people in East Anglia, Inverness, and Edinburgh.

The Nordics are clearly much more widespread than just Scandanavia. Nordic refers to the phenotype of humans who are tall, long headed, blonde/red-blonde hair, and blue eyes. There are plenty of these to be found in Holland, France, England, Scotland, Germany, Lithuania, Ukraine, Russia, etc.

The vast majority of Spaniards are Celto-Iberic. The numbers of Greeks, Romans, and Germans (Vandals) who moved in are infinitesimal compared to the base population. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? 5 million Spaniards easily overwhelmed the genetics of 50,000 Vandals, just as did the Alpine type Celtic northern Italians to the minority German Lombards. Small groups of conquerers such as you site are inevitably subsummed and rarely make a significant alteration in the base population genetics. A significant alteration takes a sustained settlement effort (as with the Germans in Prussia, Silesia, and Austria), a mixing of two or more peoples in a newly settled area (as with the Norse and Gaels in Iceland), or a enormous annhilation of people (as in Russia under the Communists, or Germany after the 30 Years War).

I wish my children to marry people who look like my and my wife's families, who have the Catholic faith, and simiar politics. And yes, I'll raise them to think that way, regardless of whether you want to call us bigots or not. If my daughter tried to go against my wishes, I'd politely but firmly remind her just who she is expecting is to pay for her marriage and set her up in life and suggest she respect my wishes. As long as she is living in my house (and the same for my son), I would simply forbid them from dating people I do not approve of.

I guess you think me terribly old fashioned, but my children will not be allowed to simply do as they please. We are not followers of Alastair Crowley.

176 posted on 11/24/2002 7:42:36 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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