Posted on 11/22/2002 6:01:00 AM PST by riley1992
Those big haired Texan ladies wouldn't like ye talking about them that way ;-)
Missouri is "Yankee Country"?
Regards, Ivan
Someone is suffering from raging dildo-phobia.
Thank you. You've just made my point. Up here. What some refuse to accept is that this nation is still as regionalized as it was in 1795. Some people don't believe as others do. Some states have laws governing moraility that others don't. And instead of accepting those differences and moving on, those states are ridiculed, accused of limiting freedom, and basically broken until they accept the ways of 'up here'. And the slide continues. When 'up here' accepts sex in the streets, are we supposed to as well? And don't say it couldn't happen. 60 years ago, if someone told your parents there would be 3 'sex shops' in every town they would have laughed. Couldn't happen they say. But look now. How many does Chicago have compared to just 30 years ago?
OK, let me see if I correctly understand your position. There are some laws that you would question, and others that you think should not be questioned by anyone, and you are going by the standards set by the "founders or one generation removed." I don't see where the founders said anything about pornography. In fact, Ben Franklin was well know as a libertine even by the by the permissive standards of the French Court. On the other hand, John Adams was know for his puritanical views. So whose standards among the founders are you chosing?
Second, if you truly believe that "I would expect the state representatives to respect and see freedom in the same manner that the Founders did" then you are hopelessly naive. County commissars, state representatives, and federal reps overwhelmingly vote to plunder, squander and control. They have far outstripped any constitutional authority they have had and run an illegitimate government based purely on force - the ability to terrorize citizens. They got away with this because too many people either were cynically expecting a share of the plunder (government employees come to mind here) or were too worshipful of the authoritarian jackboot to question the endless expansion of laws.
Kongress has continually passed new restrictions and new taxes as long as I can remember. I can't say that any of it was for my benefit, nor has my quality of life been improved by this tyrannical form of socialism that grows out of Washington and every state capital every day.
I can't figure out any way that anyone's quality of life would be enhanced or made safer or their property proteced by confiscating stealing this woman's stupid sex toys or prosecuting her for selling them.
Are you saying those men didn't know what they were doing, the laws they passed, and that today's socialistic Godless Empire is that much better?
Wow! a complete reversal of positions worthy of any liberal. The founders gave us a constitution and a Bill of Rights. It is pretty plain that they wanted to restrict the role of government to ONLY those activites specifically allowed by the constitution. Determining what constitutes public morality isn't in the constitution near as I can tell. You have a lot of chutzpah accusing me of contradicting the founding fathers, when you are the one who explicitly stated that any law passed by the legislature should be obeyed without question.
Wasn't it Mencken who defined a Puritan as someone who was perpetually mortified by the fear that somebody, somewhere, was having a good time?
Also I would imagine if you have proper barbeque. ;)
Regards, Ivan
An extreme and debilitating fear of Al Gore?
Best wishes,
-grump
No sir. It is plain they wanted to restrict the role of the federal government only as evidenced by the 10th Amendment. Do I need to quote it for you? Rights reserved to the states. Is moral code covered by these United States Constitution? No. Then it is the right of the state to set some level of which the majority of its citizens feel comfortable. At least the men who wrote those laws felt that way. But they were only peers of the signers of the Constitution so surely they didn't have your wisdom to rely on.
The only reason the police should have anything to do with this case is because she was a drunk driver. THOSE they should watch for!
Would you feel the same way if the "majority" were for strict gun control?
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