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Among the Europeans.......Living in two different worlds.
NRO ^ | November 21, 2002 9:00 a.m. | Benny Irdi Nirenstein

Posted on 11/21/2002 7:04:19 AM PST by dennisw

Among the Europeans
Living in two different worlds.

By Benny Irdi Nirenstein

ast week in Florence, 300,000 Europeans — many waiving Palestinian flags and sporting t-shirt images of Che Guevara, Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tong — marched to denounce the possibility that the United States will liberate the Iraqi people. In the upside-down world of these European demonstrators, democracies are to be condemned and dictatorships coddled.

Being an Italian who grew up in Israel, I'm increasingly caught in between two very different worlds. Half my friends now serve in the Israeli army, a veritable melting pot of rich and poor, black and white. For my other friends, danger is avoiding a hangover after a late night of partying in Rome.

I returned to Italy recently. What I find is frightening. Europeans no longer take for granted principles I came to understand in Israel. I assumed that anyone growing up in a democracy would understand that democracies are always superior to dictatorships. I never thought Italians who suffered so horribly during war and dictatorship would ever again find terrorism — the deliberate slaughter of civilians for political gain — acceptable. But increasingly they do.

I can no longer speak about the importance of freedom, liberty, and democracy in Italy without attracting the condescending sneers of a generation schooled by Europe's media, statesmen, and left-wing intelligentsia to look beyond such "simplistic" concepts.

To my European classmates, any suggestion that there is a connection between Islam and terror — even as self-identified Islamic groups slaughter schoolchildren in Israel, tourists in Egypt, and revelers at a Bali nightclub — is more racist than Islamists' targeting of civilians because of their religion. European politicians — Jacques Chirac, for example, unabashedly honors Hezbollah's Shaikyh Nasrallah, the same man who last month suggested that he would welcome the return of all Jews to Israel "to save the trouble of hunting them down later."

In Italian classrooms, political ethics are reversed. Terrorism is justified, but and defense of democracy is not. Military campaigns are roundly condemned, even though it was the military and not political appeasement that freed Western Europe from the worst tyranny. For many Italian students, professors, journalists, and politicians, there can be no justification for war. When the Baath party seized power in a coup, Saddam Hussein purged hundreds of political competitors. But to a new generation of Europeans schooled by Sixties radicals and liberal elites, Saddam is a legitimate nationalist leader and masterful tactician, while President George Bush, leader of the world's strongest democracy, is simply dismissed as stupid.

European arrogance has grown so great that even the most-ignorant student emerging with a failing grade feels justified in mocking the president of the United States. No countervailing arguments are needed to address those who understand the necessity of war, the right of self-defense, or the fragility of liberty in the face of tyranny.

I don't know whether the gap between Europe and America has ever been so great. No one I know identifies himself as pro-American. Despite recent waves of anti-Semitic and racist violence, and Le Pen's strong showing in the French elections, Europeans believe Americans to be racist, while they themselves are culturally tolerant. Europeans believe themselves to be empathetic while Americans are merciless and ruthless. They see no irony in the fact that it is the United States that is standing with Iraqis and Iranians against murderous dictators, while the European Union seeks to expand its business ties to Saddam Hussein and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. They do not see any problem with Mary Robinson's legitimization of suicide bombings, nor the European Union's subsidization of the al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade. For my European teachers, Saddam is more a representative of a different culture than a dictator set on accumulating weapons of mass destruction.

In many ways, the widening ideological gulf between Western European countries like Italy and the United States is due to deep ideological mark of communism. Eastern Europe suffered under Communism and knows the evil of Leftism gone awry. In Italy, Communism has never fallen out of vogue. Under U.S. military protection, successive generations of young Italians have grown up unable to conceive of what tyranny actually means while taking liberty for granted. They demonize power and believe that the underdog must always be right. Accordingly, in the Middle East, Israel's military prowess makes the Jewish state worthy of contempt, and proponents of the slaughter of Israelis and Jews worthy of honor. More broadly, the power of the United States makes America public-enemy number one. Thus, American efforts to feed Muslims in Somalia, or liberate Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo are ignored. Despite the sacrifice of American lives for freedom in Korea, Grenada, Kuwait, and Haiti, they believe Washington is just cynically seeking control of Iraq's oil.

The inability of Europe to truly separate religion from state compounds the problem. No Italian politician can afford to ignore the Catholic Church. British politicians still look toward the Church of England for their moral guidance. When religion and politics mix, it can breed two extremist outcomes: One of fundamentalism as afflicts the Islamic world, and the other of irresponsible pacifism that now afflicts Europe, with an effect equally dangerous. Europe is now facing a devaluation of the same fundamental values that allowed it for more than 300 years be the world's most-prosperous and powerful region. The cultural relativism that increasingly reigns supreme in Europe serves as a powerful justification for treating as allies and equals the most corrupted and anti-democratic regimes on the globe. Terror becomes as legitimate as the decisions of a democratically elected government. Europe must have to awake from its sleep if it wants to play a relevant role in the world's future balance, and it does.

The question I ask myself when I am studying in Rome is whether my European friends must see terror with their own eyes before it can stop wondering "why these crazy Americans are going to war?"

— Benny Irdi Nirenstein is completing a political-science degree at Luiss University.

 



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1 posted on 11/21/2002 7:04:19 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
In the upside-down world of these European demonstrators, democracies are to be condemned and dictatorships coddled.

In the upside-down world of former President Jimmy Carter, the USA is condemned and USA-hating dictatorships coddled.

It's NOT just the Europeans.

2 posted on 11/21/2002 7:09:23 AM PST by samtheman
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To: dennisw; monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; angelo; ...
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3 posted on 11/21/2002 7:14:42 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
The amoral insanity of these Europeans will be repaid many times over through the tender mercies of their Islamic friends. When the European Union becomes the Islamic European Union and their local Taliban start imposing Sharia law, then the gnashing of teeth and the moaning of these fools will be deafining.
4 posted on 11/21/2002 7:15:24 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: dennisw
Excellent article. Thanks.
5 posted on 11/21/2002 7:24:38 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: dennisw
Welcome to Eurabia.
6 posted on 11/21/2002 7:32:14 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: dennisw
In many ways, the widening ideological gulf between Western European countries like Italy and the United States is due to deep ideological mark of communism. Eastern Europe suffered under Communism and knows the evil of Leftism gone awry. In Italy, Communism has never fallen out of vogue.

This is the crux of the matter. The leftists never truly changed their beliefs, just their labels. University students have ignored the history of communism, and its' twin sister, fascism. Most Italians that I know regard the Mussolini era as ancient history, something that never happened, or "he was not so bad as...".

It seems that all of Europe is in a time warp, with many in the younger generation having lost all sense of direction. Older citizens are tired of hearing about the fascist years, and it means nothing to the younger generation. Communism has been resurrected as a great ideal to strive for, not the drunked ideas of a failed politico.

Thankfully someone in Europe is starting to see the truth, if only in snippets. Someone had to vote for the conservatives in the last elections; it certainly wasn't the intelligentsia.

We have friends who moved to Texas from England two years ago to attend seminary. He was already more conservative in his politics than most of his acquaintances in England. Coming to Texas he instantly became the most liberal of the gentlemen in our little group. Two years later, he can't imagine how he will fit in when he returns to England, for he has become even more conservative in his politics and thinking.

It just goes to show that a European can be rehabilitated from the evils of socialism. Now if we could all become a little more Rhodesian in our thinking ....

7 posted on 11/21/2002 7:32:52 AM PST by texas booster
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks and a bright sunny with the waves gently lapping morning to ya!
8 posted on 11/21/2002 7:38:09 AM PST by dennisw
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To: texas booster
Europe is heading for a fall... calling it Eurarabia is pretty much on the mark.

The sad news for Europe is that it has allowed its permissiveness and tolerance to move it into this mess. Good qualities until infected by moral relativism.

Our true friends in Europe are the former Eastern European countries, and IMHO, Russia who know what evil lurks in the hearts of bureaucrats and intellectuals and true believers.

One of our future friends, believe it or not, is going to be...

IRAN

Mark my words... a home grown Islamic democracy is brewing in IRAN, for the same reasons as given above.

9 posted on 11/21/2002 7:47:48 AM PST by chilepepper
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To: Travis McGee
Europe is the example of multi-culturalism resulting in the society being destroyed.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

10 posted on 11/21/2002 7:57:51 AM PST by harpseal
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To: dennisw
They demonize power and believe that the underdog must always be right.

Moral blinders, like these, come with a large price tag that always comes back to bite the buyer in the butt...the bill always comes due, payable in full.

11 posted on 11/21/2002 7:58:05 AM PST by beowolf
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To: dennisw
Excellent post. I don't bookmark many posts these days - but this one is a keeper. Thanks. This writer understands what is going on.

The Bible speaks of "Gomer and all his hordes" in the "latter days" (Ezekiel)....who are going to come down, sweep down into Israel. For a long time, I could not see how post-WWII Germany/Europe could possibly become the home of the AntiChrist and participate in the movement against Israel that is going to take place (soon).

Sadly, I have lived long enough to see this impossibility become highly possible now. The Bible also speaks of the Lord giving people over to a strong delusion (when they persist in outright rebellion of the truth of God).

I believe this is what is taking place in Europe. They are so blinded by their hatred of America along with being unable and unwilling to throw off the anti-God Socialism they have embraced, that they have now been "given over" to the strong delusion re: Israel / America (BAD) ---- Terrorist butchers (GOOD).

Destruction will follow soon after embracing such delusions - unless God in His mercy intervenes with a "warning" - that cannot be misinterpreted and which will give some a chance to turn back to Him before midnight comes.

12 posted on 11/21/2002 8:14:13 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: dennisw
Brilliant writer condemn LePen as anti-Semetic for what? Does he expect waves of support from the Left for this? I have always admired the Jewish intellectuals, but lately it seems more like they are singing, "Send in the clowns."
13 posted on 11/21/2002 10:05:48 AM PST by junta
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To: dennisw
The inability of Europe to truly separate religion from state compounds the problem. No Italian politician can afford to ignore the Catholic Church. British politicians still look toward the Church of England for their moral guidance. When religion and politics mix, it can breed two extremist outcomes: One of fundamentalism as afflicts the Islamic world, and the other of irresponsible pacifism that now afflicts Europe, with an effect equally dangerous.

This is truly a large part of the mix..wait till they find their churchs closed and only the mosques open and the women all in Burkas ..They are a hapless bunch .

The ones with foresight and guts came here to reproduce..what was left over there was the tail ends of the frightened and those that liked having a King tell them how they may live

Thank God we are not there..

14 posted on 11/21/2002 10:12:49 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: dennisw
And to you too Dennis.
15 posted on 11/21/2002 10:13:35 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: harpseal; dennisw; Travis McGee
Help!
16 posted on 11/21/2002 2:28:20 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: junta
It is pretty weird that so many have accepted the media-generated image of LePen as anti-semitic. He's anti-immigrant and with good reason. It's the muslims he wants out, which is why there was such a scream of outrage in France when he placed in the primaries. If he WERE merely anti-semitic, the French would love him as they are anti-semitic too. To brand him as anti-semitic and then defeat him allows the French to pretend that they don't hate Jews. I don't know who they think they are fooling.
17 posted on 11/21/2002 2:40:37 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: dennisw
If we intend to stay free we must separate ourselves from Europe.
Ah, Shaikyh Nasrallah, the very definition of a mad Arab dog. Perhaps he and his kind will do the world a great service and become extinct.
18 posted on 11/21/2002 2:40:56 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: dennisw
Bookmarked and bumped!

Out of curiosity, dennisw, the article looks very good with the wide left and right margins.

What is the HTML code to make it appear that way?

Thanks.
19 posted on 11/21/2002 4:47:32 PM PST by tictoc
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My cousin( a female) just got back from Paris. She said the French were rude and nasty, she was only spoken to decently once- by the owner of the small hotel she stayed in.Paris was, she said , beautiful but filthy. The streets especially and the stench is incredible. The water is absolutely undrinkable and nasty to bathe in. All the while the French walked around with their snotty attitudes.
She also brought home some French newspapers. THEY are real eye-openers. Interviews with Parisians on the street( mostly young and unemployed) revealed they think we're war-mongering barbarians. President Bush is more like a dictator than the leader of a democracy, and they all think that the 'attack' on Iraq is motivated by America's hunger for world domination and Middle East oil.
It was like reading a newspaper printed in a time-warp. Are these people on the same PLANET???
20 posted on 11/21/2002 7:08:01 PM PST by ClearBlueSky
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