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Great Gray Lady in spat with saloon hussy (New York Times vs. Fox News) Ann Coulter
worldnetdaily ^ | 11/20/2002 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/20/2002 3:51:15 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Great Gray Lady in spat with saloon hussy

by Ann Coulter

Before we begin, how happy is Dick Gephardt that he never has to take another four-hour phone call from Barbra Streisand?

I did not realize how devastating the midterm elections were to liberals until seeing the Great Gray Lady reduced to starting a catfight with Fox News Channel. It has come to this. The New York Times was in high dudgeon this week upon discovering that Fox News chairman Roger Ailes sent a letter to the Bush White House nine days after Sept. 11. As the corpses of thousands of his fellow Americans lay in smoldering heaps, Ailes evidently recommended getting rough with the terrorists.

One imagines Karl Rove running down the hallway to the president's office waving Ailes' letter and shouting "Mr. President! Mr. President! I have the memo! We've got to fight back!"

I assume it's superfluous to mention that there is nothing illegal about Ailes giving advice to the president – though admittedly, I have not consulted the "living Constitution" in the past 24 hours to see if a new penumbra specifically about Fox News has sprouted. But the Times was a monument of self-righteous indignation because hard news men are supposed to stay neutral between America and terrorism.

Of course, the Times hasn't been reticent in giving the president advice on the war. (Surrender now!)

Nor was there much neutrality shown between George Bush and the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. After the Norwegians – who gave us the term "quisling" – awarded former President Jimmy Carter the Peace Prize citing his vocal opposition to President Bush's war policies, the press sprang to action. The whole chorus began calling this comically inept president one of America's "greatest." Good Morning America's Charles Gibson said Carter had "become, in the opinion of many, the greatest ex-president of modern times."

MSNBC's Brian Williams – who worked for Carter – asked a history professor if it was fair to call Carter "the best former president in, at minimum, modern American history, and perhaps, well, I guess, the last 200 years?" (Absolutely, historian Marshall Frady replied.) On the "Today" show, Katie Couric said: "I mean, it's so wonderful ... and so well-deserved."

Other great moments in journalistic neutrality include NPR's Nina Totenberg leaking information about Anita Hill that she got from Sen. Howard Metzenbaum's staff, and the Washington Post's Ben Bradlee yukking it up on the phone with President Kennedy and later cheering when President Nixon resigned.

So it's interesting that the Times viewed Ailes' letter as an affront to objective journalism.

But this was more than the media's usual insane point that they – the least impartial industry in America – must maintain absolute neutrality between George Bush and the terrorists. The Times went further to imply that by supporting his own country in the war on terrorism, Ailes had unmistakably marked himself as a "partisan conservative."

If Ailes had written a letter recommending a tax hike, blathering on and on about Ailes' conservative bias wouldn't have made sense. Instead, he had recommended the harshest measures possible against the terrorists. As far as the Times was concerned, this was the smoking gun of partisanship. The paper railed that Ailes purports to be an "unbiased journalist, not a conservative spokesman." Fox News is "the self-proclaimed fair and balanced news channel." But now the Times had caught him red-handed, pursuing "an undisguised ideological agenda." Ailes is secretly rooting for America!

At least we finally have it from the horse's own mouth. The Times openly admits that the "conservative" position is to take America's side against the terrorists. Why do they get so snippy when I say that?

This welcome admission went unremarked upon only because it is simply taken for granted that liberals root against their own country. As the Times said of Ailes' letter, it "was less shocking than it was liberating – a little like the moment in 1985 when an ailing Rock Hudson finally explained that he had AIDS." We always knew you were traitors, and now you've admitted it.

The Times was a whirligig of pointless insinuations – "secretly gave advice to," "back-channel message" "shocking," "confirmed yesterday" and "revelations." (Eager Times readers will have to wait another day for the revelation of "Pinch" Sulzberger's SAT scores.) Belittling Fox News is so pleasurable for the Times that it didn't occur to them that they had given up the ghost on their faux patriotism.

Fox News should agree to admit it is conservative as soon as all other media admit they are liberal. Fox is manifestly closer to the center than the others. On the Times' definition of "conservative" (harsh with the terrorists) and "liberal" (soft on the terrorists), the public is with Fox News. We took a pretty conclusive poll on that a couple of weeks ago. The people, in their infinite wisdom, have spoken.


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To: laurav
None of these people work for the NY Times. I don't understand why she's citing them as evidence that the NY Times has not been neutral in the war.

That's not the point she's arguing.

Her point is that the NYT gasped in horror and thought it required a scolding editorial when a conservative newsman expressed an opinion that wasn't 100% neutral and non-partisan, *but* they never uttered a peep when faced with more clearly outrageous examples in the past by newspeople on the liberal side of the fence.

Her point is they're hypocrites, with a glaring double-standard.

Liberals are allowed to be wildly partisan, but conservatives aren't.

That's the meaning of the tail-end sentence you quoted from her: "So it's interesting that the Times viewed Ailes' letter as an affront to objective journalism."

She's saying, "it's interesting that they've never jumped on all those other examples of partisanship, but they saw Ailes' less egregious behavior as 'an affront to objective journalism'".

63 posted on 11/20/2002 11:23:22 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Lancey Howard
Hmmm... we have Ann Coulter. They have Helen Thomas.

Yeah. We win.

We also have Laura Ingraham. We're way ahead.

64 posted on 11/20/2002 11:25:33 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
We have Michelle Malkin. They have Molly Ivins.
Oh this is getting sick.
65 posted on 11/21/2002 12:53:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: roob
Her talents wasted? Not to my way of thinking.

Here's my way of thinking. Where do her columns run? World Net Daily. Front Page magazine. No one who isn't already in line with Ann's way of thinking would read either of those publications. She's managed to get her writing dropped from publications that do actually reach people who disagree with her (even prior to the Sept. 11 'convert them to Christianity' comment) because of factual problems and her tendency to write the same things over and over.

I believe that the point of opinion writing is to convince people, not preach to the choir.

66 posted on 11/21/2002 7:39:12 AM PST by laurav
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To: AmishDude
There are 2 pieces on Ailes. The one she's writing about is a bylined op-ed. The NY Times editorial ran later, and her column isn't about that one (though it should be).
67 posted on 11/21/2002 7:40:30 AM PST by laurav
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To: Tempest
Ann Coulter, Threat or Menace?

Other interesting facts about Ann Coulter:

Ann Coulter has never seen a horse like the Tennessee stud.

Ann Coulter eats dessert first.

Ann Coulter believes everything she reads.

Ann Coulter lets it ride on red.

Ann Coulter knows when to hold 'em.

Ann Coulter makes a mean martini.

Ann Coulter sees you and raises you ten.

Ann Coulter types 120 wpm.

Ann Coulter speeds up at yellow lights.

Ann Coulter prefers boxers.

Ann Coulter slept here.

Ann Coulter builds strong bodies 12 ways.

Ann Coulter swims on a full stomach.

Ann Coulter owes her soul to the company store.

Ann Coulter is available for product endorsements.

Ann Coulter means well.

Ann Coulter sees you when you're sleeping.

Ann Coulter is up for parole in 2005.

Ann Coulter always leaves room for Jello.

Ann Coulter is no Jack Kennedy.

69 posted on 11/21/2002 7:48:03 PM PST by paulklenk
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To: laurav
If you owned a newspaper, would you publish opinion peices that were opposite from your own views?
70 posted on 11/21/2002 7:53:15 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: roob
AnnCoultersucks.com is pointed to IloveAnncoulter.com.. Is it just me or .. rofl
71 posted on 11/21/2002 8:20:36 PM PST by Havoc
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To: Republic of Texas
If you owned a newspaper, would you publish opinion peices that were opposite from your own views?

Sure. You don't have to, but many do. It keeps readers interested. So Tom Curley (publisher of USA Today) does. So does Sulzberger over at the Times, occasionally. The ones in disagreement are outnumbered, but they're there. Trust me, the publishers of USA Today didn't agree with Coulter, but they published her. At the TImes, they don't agree with Safire. At the WSJ, they don't agree with their liberal columnists. But readers of op-ed pages want pieces that make them say "I never thought of it that way." If you're all the same, they don't say that, and they move along.

72 posted on 11/21/2002 9:11:25 PM PST by laurav
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To: roob
Hehe. I just thought that was too funny. Someone grabbing both sides of the coin and doesn't know what to do with em'.
Must be a squatter lookin for someone to buy em.
74 posted on 11/22/2002 4:33:17 AM PST by Havoc
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