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Young Americans flunk geography, according to National Geographic quiz survey
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | November 20, 2002 | Paul Recer

Posted on 11/20/2002 11:50:02 AM PST by anguish

Young Americans flunk geography, according to National Geographic quiz survey

Wed Nov 20, 9:43 AM ET

By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON - Ask young people to pick out Iraq on a map of the Middle East, and only 13 percent can locate it — despite a barrage of headlines and broadcast reports about a possible war against President Saddam Hussein.

Same goes for Israel or Iran, according to a National Geographic study that finds there has been little to no improvement in students' knowledge of geography since 1988.

The society survey released Wednesday found that only about one in seven of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, an Iraqi neighbor.

Although the majority, 58 percent, of the young Americans surveyed knew that the Taliban and al-Qaida were based in Afghanistan, only 17 percent could find that country on a world map. A U.S.-led force attacked the Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan in October 2001, and President Bush has said he is prepared to use force to rid Iraq of any chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries and scored the results with traditional grades. The surveyed Americans got a "D," with an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21, just three points from a failing grade.

Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38. None of the countries got an "A," which required average scores of 42 correct answers or better on the 56 questions.

"If our young people can't find places on a map and lack awareness of current events, how can they understand the world's cultural, economic and natural resource issues that confront us?" John Fahey, president of the National Geographic Society, said in a statement.

National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the society said.

Other findings from the survey:

_Thirty-four percent of the young Americans knew that the island used on last season's "Survivor" television show was located in the South Pacific, but only 30 percent could locate the state of New Jersey on a map. The "Survivor" show's location was the Marquesas Islands in the eastern South Pacific.

_When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the United States, only California and Texas could be located by a large majority of those surveyed. Both states were correctly located by 89 percent of the participants. Only 51 percent could find New York, the nation's third most populous state.

_On a world map, Americans could find on average only seven of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed could find their own country on the map.

_In the world map test, Swedes could find an average of 13 of the 16 countries. Germans and Italians were next, with an average of 12 each.

_Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

_Although 81 percent of the surveyed Americans knew that the Middle East is the Earth's largest oil exporter, only 24 percent could find Saudi Arabia on the map.

The international survey was conducted for the National Geographic by RoperASW. The results are based on face-to-face interviews with at least 300 men and women aged 18 to 24 in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, Britain and the United States.

The questionnaires were in the local language, but the content was universally the same.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: education; geography
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To: Old Professer
Maybe some day someone will develop a spelling check utility for web postings.
Until then, I'll just have to take pleasure in the fact that my keyboard miscues aggravate the hell out of picky people.

Flame on and FReegards
41 posted on 11/20/2002 1:32:10 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: anguish
Well, you know the schools are in dire shape and need a pantload more money for better schools and teacher pay incentives. The American people are failing the school children. < /sarcasm>

Those globes that were in every classroom I was in while in grade school must really cost a fortune. Maybe if they silkscreened a world map on condom packages the kids would have a chance.

42 posted on 11/20/2002 2:30:32 PM PST by hattend
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To: anguish
I love geography.

Freeper pop quiz!

What's the largest state (in area) east of the Mississippi River?

43 posted on 11/20/2002 2:37:41 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: Jhensy
Georgia.
44 posted on 11/20/2002 2:38:34 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Jhensy
BTW don't try the old, if you keep going East you will get to Alaska, scam.
45 posted on 11/20/2002 2:39:55 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Jhensy
Here is a better one.

What is the largest city, in the largest county, in the largest state East of the Mississippi, area wise?

46 posted on 11/20/2002 2:41:23 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog
Ding ding. That was quick Yarddog. Have a cookie. Usually everyone says Florida or North Carolina.
47 posted on 11/20/2002 2:42:11 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: yarddog
What is the largest city, in the largest county, in the largest state East of the Mississippi, area wise?

The obvious is Atlanta...?

48 posted on 11/20/2002 2:43:58 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: Jhensy
Sorry no biscuit.

Fulton County is not the largest in Georgia area wise.

49 posted on 11/20/2002 2:48:46 PM PST by yarddog
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Hey, don't get your panties all in a wad; I thought maybe someone knew the true difference between apposite and opposite: apposite - side by side; opposite - face to face (roughly speaking).
50 posted on 11/20/2002 3:06:07 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: anguish
I was one of only six students in a university class of about 1600 to get a degree in geography. Since then, the geography department has been closed and the remaining professors have been transferred to the "Environmental Studies" department. If no one's learning about geography in college then few are teaching it at the lower levels.
51 posted on 11/20/2002 3:07:33 PM PST by ravinson
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To: Mr. Bird
The reason kids can't find these places is no one asks them to in school.

I beg to differ. My 11 year old just got through with a Middle East Geography unit, preceded by Europe and The United States (in a public school). The tests consisted of finding countries on blank maps. They DO teach it, but perhaps not in much depth or long enough to retain into adulthood.

53 posted on 11/20/2002 3:16:10 PM PST by WIladyconservative
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To: ravinson
They closed our geography dept. too a few years after I graduated. It was a shame because we had a real active one while I was there. We even had a geography club. Our meetings usually consisted of inviting one of the University's professors to show slides of his trip to Greece, or Argentina etc.

It actually was far more interesting than it sounds like. For some reasons those professors tended to be really good photographers.

54 posted on 11/20/2002 3:24:16 PM PST by yarddog
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To: anguish
Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

That sounds so different, but it means exactly the same thing, doesn't it?

30% of the population in any country are total idiots, which is why the Democrat party has a base, which surely includes this reporter.

55 posted on 11/20/2002 3:35:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Jhensy
Michigan?
56 posted on 11/20/2002 3:38:55 PM PST by Rockitz
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To: anguish; Nakatu X
A while ago there was a tv-program on the Dutch TV. They asked people on the street to point out the Netherlands on a worldmap.

A lot of people actualy failed, one guy even pointing to China!
57 posted on 11/20/2002 3:43:18 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: yarddog
We even had a geography club. Our meetings usually consisted of inviting one of the University's professors to show slides of his trip to Greece, or Argentina etc. It actually was far more interesting than it sounds like. For some reasons those professors tended to be really good photographers.

I had a fantastic geography professor whose lectures consisted almost entirely of slide shows and his commentary. Studying geography definitely makes you a much better observer.

58 posted on 11/21/2002 1:32:25 AM PST by ravinson
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To: yarddog; Jhensy
What's the largest state (in area) east of the Mississippi River?

Georgia... BTW don't try the old, if you keep going East you will get to Alaska, scam.

Ding ding. That was quick Yarddog. Have a cookie. Usually everyone says Florida or North Carolina.

Careful folks. One of the extra credit questions on my college geography class (North America) final exam was to name the easternmost, westernmost, nothernmost, and southernmost states. The answers, of course, are Alaska, Alaska, Alaska, and Hawaii, respectively. (Alaska is both the easternmost and westernmost state, of course, because the 180th meridian runs right through it.)

And even if you limit your question to the contiguous states, Minnesota lies east of the Mississippi River (albeit only partially) and has a larger area than Georgia. Be careful when you make those bar bets or you might end up buying a few rounds.

59 posted on 11/21/2002 2:20:04 AM PST by ravinson
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To: anguish
Here is a street survey done in NY by a British paper. Some of the people's comments are amazing. Laugh or cry- what to do??

Here's a sample of the original National Geographic test questions

60 posted on 11/21/2002 6:03:50 AM PST by Int
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