Victoria's Secret on TV 'soft porn'?

CNN ^ | 11/20/02

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

NEW YORK (AP) -- Two women's groups and a media watchdog organization on Tuesday asked CBS not to air the Victoria's Secret fashion show, calling it a "soft-core porn infomercial."

CBS said it was moving ahead with the broadcast of supermodels in lingerie on Wednesday night.

[golfpro]

Obviously they are trying to pull some of the audience from The Man Show.

[MadIvan]

Lord Sidious, you disappoint me. Surely you can do better.

Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

My lady may be nauseated by me saying this, but so far as I am concerned, no other woman for me exists in terms of love and desire. So these kind of programmes are irrelevant to me. But that's just me.

Regards, Ivan

[twigs]

Sounds like you've got a good lady--and she's got a good man.

[MadIvan]

Sounds like you've got a good lady--and she's got a good man.

Well I hope she feels that way; I am not perfect, and as you can tell, I can be very grumpy. ;)

Regards, Ivan

[Mamzelle]

Is that model with the spotted wings even female?

[xsrdx]

If it was soft porn, there would be a cheesecake shot

And plenty of carefully positioned flowerpots and table lamps to conceal the action...

[goldstategop]

Relax. They haven't produced a tranny fashion show - yet.

[Mamzelle]

Check her out...looks like Michael Jackson.

[Taliesan]

What purpose does the special serve except to overly sexualize women and use this to bolster the networks' demographics for young men?"

That would be about it. cf. "Capitalism".

[Celtjew Libertarian]

I just don't understand women who don't mind their husbands watching this stuff.

A quote from my wife: "If you don't want your husband looking at other women, marry a homosexual."

[spetznaz]

It seems to me that whenever something like this comes on TV there will always be the myriads who will want to condemn it as the nihilistic nefarious cause of moral atrophy and satanic dissension in the world! Personally i think it is just a program that shows beautiful sylphs (possessing body types beyond the reach of virtually all women) parading in silk whatnots ....in essence an advertising ploy that sells an image to the masses.

However definitely not the work of the devil!

And also let me add that it always amazes me that some people will try to cancel a program on TV that does not personally fit well with them. They will strive their hardest to shut it down (even if they are the only family finding problems with the program), instead of doing something extremely simple: turn of their TV set! I think the same applies to this Victoria Secrets program: If someone has a problem with it, or thinks it is soft porn, or that the women are reincarnations of the 7 dukes of hell .....then the simple and prudent thing to do is switch to another channel, listen to the radio, or go for a walk! However when they try to paint the whole thing as evil or responsible for every bad thing since stale bread then you have to wonder .....who exactly has the agenda?

And something else! I always laugh when i see some criticizing the women who appear on the adverts for Victoria secret for being too skinny, emaciated, and so forth! That is funny because for one the ladies in the adverts are not emaciated (for truly skinny look at Euro-trash fashion shows ...now THAT is skinny). Secondly (and by far more importantly) i could safely state that the vast majority of men would like to meet anyone of those V.S models; and furthermore probably even more women would sell half their soul to look even remotely like those women do! However since most men do not have access to such beauties, and most women only look like that on Friday nights (when some guy at some nightspot is trying to woo and flirt with them, and in the process tells them lies about how they look like Giselle) then it becomes easy to criticize. Obviously there are exceptions (eg men who truly prefer plump women; or women who are truly confident in themselves and value who they are instead of how they look, and hence have no reason to pine after a body type that only 15 years olds can keep). However the vast majority who criticize are just being hypocritical.

To prove a point look at the following picture! True, some may prefer buxom beauties, others women with higher percentages of body fat for their own respective reasons! However i would easily make a bet that most men would prefer someone who looks as follows, and that most women would like a body type close to that! After all how come the health industry(read Body Shaping since it is more towards looks than health ....health just happens to be a by product) is a multi-billion dollar industry? Simple reason: Men want to have bodies attractive enough to attract women like these models; and women want to have bodies like those models have!

Anyways here is the picture of one of the VS models, Adrianna.

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

The article states that one of the groups protesting the show is Concerned Women of America, a conservative Christian group, which is the largest women's group in the US of A.

I don't plan on watching this thing. And it probably is a bit explotive. But, that's the nature of commercial TV. If you gotta watch this show, I wonder what a guy's wife or girlfriend would think of it. Of course with my missus I ain't got no need to watch these lame excuses for models.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Brought to you by the "People Who Want To Ruin Everything" Coalition.

May they all get splinters.

[hchutch]

Gee, Brent Bozell and his crowd are jumping in again - with the NAGs, no less.

I just might make the time to watch this... :)

[FreeTally]

And also let me add that it always amazes me that some people will try to cancel a program on TV that does not personally fit well with them. They will strive their hardest to shut it down (even if they are the only family finding problems with the program), instead of doing something extremely simple: turn of their TV set! I think the same applies to this Victoria Secrets program: If someone has a problem with it, or thinks it is soft porn, or that the women are reincarnations of the 7 dukes of hell .....then the simple and prudent thing to do is switch to another channel, listen to the radio, or go for a walk!

Let me assure you that is not MY goal/opinion, as it is of some Freepers I have encountered. I would have no problem if they just admitted they are just trying to sexually stimulate the audience.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

As the Coalition of People Who Want to Ruin Everything continues on their crusade to make America so namby pamby thta a toddler would get sick at the prospect.

[NeoCaveman]

Telemundo baffles me sometimes, I don't know a lot of the language but it is achieving the required effect if they want me to sit and watch for awhile

Telemundo ping.

[twigs]

I've heard all the arguments, constantly, from my husband. I don't buy any of them.

[WarrenC]

Is that model with the spotted wings even female?

What is it with VS and the wings? Isn't that just kind of goofy looking?