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To: Valin
...Democrats must fearlessly consider the implication of this pattern. Whatever other problems they face, it simply seems that too many ordinary Americans lack confidence that modern liberals will boldly defend the nation and its interests....

Oh yeah. There is a complete and very deserved lack of confidence out here in America regarding the old crusty liberal hippies in congress who have refused to grow and up and understand that FREEDOM in NEVER FREE!

10 posted on 11/20/2002 7:50:31 AM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
Agreed. Whether or not Vietnam was mishandled or was a "mistake," liberals adopted irrational and anti-American arguments to oppose the war. (First example right there, there was a war whether we were in it or not but they always wanted to "stop the war" like we caused it).

If you look at the ridiculous approaches by liberals to Vietnam and apply them to the real world, you get in trouble pretty fast. Some favorites:

1. The U.S. invaded Cambodia, expanding the war. In reality the N. Vietnamese had occupied Eastern Cambodia for years and the Cambodian government approved of our incursion and bombing. But the leftists still rail about Nixon's "bombing of Cambodia" as a criminal act. Pure nonsense.

2. The S. Vietnamese were cowards. Leftists are the original racists, and the S. Vietnamese were our allies, so naturally they were scum. I will never forget the NYT story after the SV's held on at An Loc after being cut off for weeks. The dead NV's were found chained inside their tanks. The NYT wrote that the battle of An Loc proved "even a rat will fight when it is cornered."

There are too many and this post is overlong, but the liberal legacy of Vietnam includes: Giving credit to every oppressive invading left wing dictatorship, assuming America is wrong and has no rights in every dispute, unilateral disarmament, hatred of our own military as murdrers, etc.

13 posted on 11/20/2002 8:04:08 AM PST by Williams
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