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Hellfire homed in on terrorist's cell phone
New York Daily News ^ | 11/20/02 | RICHARD SISK

Posted on 11/20/2002 1:34:32 AM PST by kattracks

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To: Jambe; M Kehoe
This gives new meaning to the phrase "reach out and touch someone".

New motto for the UAV/Hellfire teams "reach out and torch someone"

The last thing he heard was the NSA operator saying, "Thank you for using AT&T and go to hell."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Jamais reculez á tyrannie un pouce!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! Never give an inch to tyranny!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

41 posted on 11/20/2002 5:26:01 AM PST by LonePalm
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To: Destructor
The article states that they know they can be located by these calls, they just get careless/cocky sometimes. It was made known during the beginning of the operation in Afghanistan that they had been tracking most of Bin Ladin's business by cell and sattelite phone calls. This is old news.
42 posted on 11/20/2002 5:28:40 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
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To: Travis McGee; MindBender26; Poohbah; harpseal; Squantos; wardaddy; Jeff Head
Interesting. From what I understand of cellfone technology, this is feasible.

OTOH, it could also be disinformation, as Mindbender26 points out.

"Fog of war", and all that.

As I've previously mentioned, I intend to push my son towards a degree and career in EE in the hopes of being able to build countermeasures to the world that's coming.


43 posted on 11/20/2002 5:29:40 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: copycat
This is information I would not release.

Bump to that.

44 posted on 11/20/2002 5:31:58 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: kattracks
Air Force Lt. Col. Sam Hudspath told reporters that cellular and satellite phones would be barred to prevent the enemy from zeroing in on them and cited the spectacular strike on a car in the Yemeni desert.

LTC Sam should be dragged outside and severely beaten. So should whoever gave this information to a PIO puke. Have ANY of these people ever heard the old saw,"You NEVER give up sources OR methods!"?

45 posted on 11/20/2002 5:47:34 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: kattracks
Can you hear me NOW..................
46 posted on 11/20/2002 6:02:57 AM PST by thepainster
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To: kattracks
"But if it's a choice between losing them or blowing them up, you blow them up."

He blowed up good, he blowed up REAL good.

47 posted on 11/20/2002 6:05:43 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: kattracks
When Abu Ali, a key Osama Bin Laden lieutenant, was vaporized with five colleagues...

That's it . . . Can't breathe without inhaling microbial Muzzle-em left-overs !!! That's enough of this filthy fumigation fiasco . . . I'm gonna tell my Mommie on those vicious vaporizing varmints !!! ;-))


48 posted on 11/20/2002 6:06:41 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: toddst
Toddst,

You say, "Remember who the military is talking to - media people being prepared for coverage of the war. This is a perfect excuse to keep cell and satellite phones out of their hands during coverage.

The actual method of pinpointing the car was not use of cell phone transmission. Some method was used that has not been revealed IMO."

This "disclosure" may, if anything, help discourage any TV, print or photo-journalists from leaving the media pool, go wilding across the desert in search of a story and using their sat and cell phones during future action in Iraq. Journalists outside the media pool that use cell and sat phones during times of combat will bring undo enemy or US military attention to their position and this could result in a serious accident.

Desert Storm I and the Afghanistan campaign have been marked with unfortunate friendly fire accidents. When the media is roaming around unsupervised and attracting ELINT attention, there's a higher chance that innocent people will be killed or injured. The enemy doesn't care if they kill journalists in war zones and we are trying to forewarn them of the danger. The military is just trying to be subtle.

jriemer

49 posted on 11/20/2002 6:08:48 AM PST by jriemer
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To: kattracks
Can you hear me now? Good!"
50 posted on 11/20/2002 6:09:38 AM PST by ncpastor
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To: toddst
The actual method of pinpointing the car was not use of cell phone transmission. Some method was used that has not been revealed IMO

Yeah . . . and don'tcha just hate Self Own blathering ??? ;-))


51 posted on 11/20/2002 6:20:04 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: Travis McGee
Perils of cell phones bump.

I'm sure Pablito would agree.

52 posted on 11/20/2002 7:51:55 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: GeekDejure
"Abu, what was that number again?...1...8...0...0...H...E...L...L...F...I...R
53 posted on 11/20/2002 8:04:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kattracks
Hehehe. "The cellular subscriber has left the vehicle or travelled outside the calling area."
54 posted on 11/20/2002 8:35:48 AM PST by Darlin'
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To: kattracks
"Hold muh cell phone" bump.
55 posted on 11/20/2002 8:39:24 AM PST by jpl
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To: EternalVigilance
Abu, what was that number again?...1...8...0...0...H...E...L...L...F...I...R

Sorry . . . no connection.

Abu, what was that number again?...1...8...0...9...H...E...L...L...F...I...R

Phone Bill . . . $24,000.00 . . . Thankyou, Please Call Again !!!


56 posted on 11/20/2002 8:39:31 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave
Simple technology I believe..........triangulate the individual signal using a intelligence satellite of the "known & wanted " terrorists cell phone/transciever/2 cans on a string etc etc ..... and then move higher resolution collection resources into the area ..... sort of like AWAC/STARS aircraft or like "cheaper" substitute where the signal was originally detected.

HUMINT confirmation of the target, move killer drones into position and viola !...... dead tangos !

Stay Safe and IMO if yer gonna do it don't talk about it !

57 posted on 11/20/2002 8:45:38 AM PST by Squantos
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To: kattracks
I wonder why they call it a Hell-Fire misslie?

I wonder if the Al Quada folks think it matches the real Hell-Fires they may be experiencing for real (as in the real Hell and the fires thereof).

58 posted on 11/20/2002 8:46:07 AM PST by topher
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To: Squantos
They could only have one reason to talk about it, if this is true. I believe that we have that technology available now.
59 posted on 11/20/2002 9:03:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Squantos
...if yer gonna do it don't talk about it !

Yep.

I know that this administration has proven it can play the press like a bass fiddle but this stuff makes me reeeeeal uncomfortable. OPSEC = STFU.

60 posted on 11/20/2002 9:28:43 AM PST by Billthedrill
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