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Gay man kills woman in religious dispute
Gay.com ^ | November 19, 2002

Posted on 11/19/2002 11:11:26 PM PST by Prodigal Son

A gay Chicago-area man stands accused of killing a woman who allegedly tried to persuade him to change his sexual orientation.

Police arrested Nicholas Gutierrez, 19, on Saturday after he confessed and the body of Mary Stachowicz, 51, was found in a crawl space beneath his apartment. He has been charged with first-degree murder, attempting to conceal a homicide and burglary, according to a Chicago Tribune report.

Authorities said Gutierrez made a videotaped confession, admitting that he became enraged during a conversation with Stachowicz because her questioning of his sexuality reminded him of debates with his mother.

Gutierrez and the victim were acquainted because they had both worked for a funeral home in the same building as the young man's apartment. When the killing occurred last Wednesday, Stachowicz was visiting Gutierrez after having attended Mass, the Tribune reported.

Friends and relatives of Stachowicz said the idea of her trying to convince Gutierrez to renounce his homosexuality was not out of character.

"Those of us who knew her immediately hear her soft voice saying something like, 'God wouldn't approve of the way you're living your life,'" Mary Coleman, a friend and neighbor, told the Tribune.

Laura Montgomery Rutt, spokeswoman for Soulfource, a national group dedicated to ending "spiritual violence" against GLBT people, said she was sorry to hear about the quarrel and the killing.

"God loves gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people just the way they are," Rutt said. "The Bible is clear that homosexuality is not a sickness and not a sin."

Bail was set at $3 million for Gutierrez, who is a ward of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services.


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Before anybody wonders- I found it trolling DU. And of course the liberals over there are actually defending the killing- see for yourself:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID61/7542.html

Also, be warned of clicking on the source link if you are offended by pictures of gay men.

1 posted on 11/19/2002 11:11:26 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Yeap, definitely justifiable homoside.

OurMorale says: "Sounds like she asked for it. These vampires have only themselves to blame when someone stakes them."

Yep, DU wants to kill Christians for expressing their belief. That's their version of free speech and tolerance for you.

2 posted on 11/19/2002 11:32:35 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
But they are not flaming hateful hypocrits are they?
3 posted on 11/19/2002 11:33:34 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Good God, they really are virtually justifying it...what the hell is wrong with these people?!

Did Matthew Shepherd 'ask for it' when he was killed because he was supposedly hitting on straight guys?

Amazing.
4 posted on 11/19/2002 11:40:36 PM PST by ECM
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To: Prodigal Son
Where, exactly, is the Bible clear that homosexuality is not a sickness or a sin?
5 posted on 11/19/2002 11:41:35 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Prodigal Son
Is it a "hate crime" if a homosexual man kills a woman?
6 posted on 11/19/2002 11:42:51 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Prodigal Son
I'm really surprised the reporters would even portray the crime this way - unless they believed the gay man was actually *justified* in killing the woman.

Somehow, I don't thing this crime will spur movies, plays and wall-to-wall media attention the way the death of Matthew Shepard did. I don't think there will be clamoring for new hate crime laws either. But the crime was certainly no less brutal and no less premeditated.

7 posted on 11/19/2002 11:44:28 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: lady lawyer
I Dickinass 3:18

(New Revised PC Living Bible)

8 posted on 11/19/2002 11:47:51 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: lady lawyer
Where, exactly, is the Bible clear that homosexuality is not a sickness or a sin?

I'm the last person in the world you want to ask about what the Bible says. Well, maybe not the last- but I'm pretty far down the list.

9 posted on 11/19/2002 11:50:37 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
The Bible is clear that homosexuality is not a sickness and not a sin.

It does? Which bible? Where?

10 posted on 11/19/2002 11:50:56 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Tall_Texan
LOL
11 posted on 11/19/2002 11:51:07 PM PST by lady lawyer
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Sheesh. Three pings on the same subject within about an hour. Normally this ping list isn't so active...

Let me know if you want to be included or removed in future pings of this type.

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12 posted on 11/19/2002 11:51:36 PM PST by scripter
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To: Prodigal Son
HATE CRIME!
13 posted on 11/19/2002 11:51:39 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: ozzymandus
Is it a "hate crime" if a homosexual man kills a woman?

Hate crime is reserved solely for members of the GOP and other conservatives.

14 posted on 11/19/2002 11:52:38 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Nevermind. Tall Texan answered it for me.

I am, however, 100% certain that The Bible condemns murder as a sin. May this Gutierrez fella get his just rewards.

15 posted on 11/19/2002 11:53:27 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Prodigal Son
I'll bet that most media outlets will consider this story to not be worthy enough to carry.
16 posted on 11/20/2002 12:20:12 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: Prodigal Son
The compassion contiues for this young lady:

"I can certainly understand why the guy snapped and killed this homegrown terrorist."

I just love bleeding-heart liberals....

17 posted on 11/20/2002 12:25:31 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Liberals are evil. If people don't believe it they should read that comment and let it sink in for a while.
18 posted on 11/20/2002 12:30:17 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Liberals are evil.

I hate to generalize too much, only some are evil, many just have simpleton beliefs. Their little commie utopia sounds real good on paper, but life just doesn't conform to liberals simple beliefs. You give people all the food, the shelter, the health-care they need, nobody is gonna work and soon there will be no food, shelter or health-care. Liberals only see the first part. I would like to think the flake that posted this stuff is on the very extreme end, and in reality I think DU tends to cater to the ugliest side of liberalism.

19 posted on 11/20/2002 12:56:29 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Prodigal Son; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Crazymonarch; babylonian
Woman beaten to death by satanist
20 posted on 11/20/2002 1:06:12 AM PST by 2sheep
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