[LiteKeeper]

Please note the number of Nobel Prize winners referenced in this article.

[wideawake]

Andrew Dickson White was the first president of Cornell University, the first university in the United States formed on strictly secular principles. (All others had been founded on a Christian basis.) He wrote a very famous book, The History of the Warfare of Science With Theology, in 1896.

White's book is one of the worst, most irresponsible books ever written.

It is frequently quoted by atheists against Christians.

The book is unrelievedly racist and contains literally hundreds of clear misstatements of historical fact, sometimes a dozen on a single page.

He made up many quotes out of whole cloth, correctly presuming that no one would pore through thousands of pages of Latin text to prove him wrong.

All in all, this book makes "Arming America" look like a milestone of scholarship.

If any Christian on this thread is ever confronted by quotes from Andrew Dickson White, feel comfortable in challenging them immediately.

[Polycarp]

Thanks, Also,

Can Science Survive in a Post-Christian Society?

Pinging (as usual, if you desire to be added to or removed from my Catholic ping list, please send me a FReepmail.)

[yendu bwam]

Science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. As such, it is neutral on this matter. And morality (what is good and what is bad) cannot be derived from science, but only from unprovable moral axioms. Christians believe those moral axioms come from God, and that life lived in accordance with those axioms (and their logical derivatives) will be freer, more fulfilling, more beautiful than life without - and that we can hope for life eternal by coming closer to God in following His way of good.

[Leto]

Ping for a later read.

A couple of quick comments:

Science tend to answer how questions, religion answers the why question. Sometimes people get confused between Why and How.

"If the Devil can keep you from asking the right question he never has to worry about the answer."-CS Lewis.

If you have faith that God created the universe, science cannot contradict anything of God's creation, only tell you how God does stuff.

[onedoug]

Origins

AG, ping.

[thinktwice]

For several centuries, scientists have set the standards of truth for Western culture. And their undeniable usefulness in helping us organize, analyze, and manipulate, facts has given them an unprecedented importance in modern society.

How does one manipulate a fact?

[thinktwice]

This article was not posted using the reference's spacing and indentations.

It is incredibly better to read it as published.

[TopQuark]

Please note the number of Nobel Prize winners referenced in this article.

Note also the number of non-Christian winners whose names he omitted. True, his premise is existential, and it suffices to show just one example to prove it.

However, you'd expect a scientist to dig a little deeper than this. He could, perhaps, put things in perspective to explain to us why, despite the Christian beliefs of all the quoted scientists, so many scientists where persectuted and burned at the stake. Why was it that, depsite all the enlightend scientists-Christians in its membership, it took the church almost two centuries to even acknowledge auto-da-fe of Giodano Bruno as "mistake."

[bzrd]

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[AndrewC]

This article should be corrected. Richard Feynman shared the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1965. There was no winner named Richard Ferriman.

[AndrewC]

Speculations, man, I have none. I have certainties. I thank God that I don't rest my dying head upon speculations for "I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I've committed unto him against that day."

Amen!

2Ti 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

[Junior]

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