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To: Taxman; ancient_geezer; nopardons; Principled; lewislynn
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2 posted on 11/19/2002 12:11:12 PM PST by Leto
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To: Leto
The problem is one of semantics: the word "reform" to a politician means "screw the public."
4 posted on 11/19/2002 12:46:35 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Leto
I like the Tax system just the way it is. If they change it will be for the worse.
12 posted on 11/19/2002 1:44:33 PM PST by John Lenin
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Thanks, that's an interesting article and a good find.

I frankly don't care what tax system is used, they're all going to screw you. All I want is to know up front what it is.

I'm sick of the sales tax being touted as a gift from heaven with the implication of guaranteed lower prices, lower taxes blah, blah, blah and a once every month, one size fits all, welfare check (gee I wonder where that money comes from) to every family in America from the all knowing central government bureaucracy (A government check to every household in America every month, does that sound like something from Hillary or what?) when, because it's never been tried in the way they prescribe, and because their pitch is based on conjecture not fact, not one of the self anointed sales tax soothsayers knows what would happen.

Don't even get me started on the phony 23% (first year only) dangling carrot teaser rate "to be determined" in the successive years by Social Security Bureaucrats...Does the phrase "to save Social Security" come to mind?

There's more but I won't bore you with facts.

33 posted on 11/19/2002 10:30:31 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: Leto; *Taxreform; Bigun
Thanks for posting Lindsey's speech. He is an intelligent and thoughtful man, and we would be remiss in not heeding his thoughts, even though they are 5 years old.

HST, he is sharing with us the those who rely on government for their livelihood by "Thinking inside the Evil Beltway box." The three factors he cites as important, Distribution, Labor vs Captial and Transfers are artificial arguments, ginned up by those who are opposed to fundamental tax reform.

The real issues, and the means by which we will win this war are, IMHO, FReedom, economic growth and equality of treatment under the law. These concepts are not talked or written about very much by the EITBW crowd -- they recognize the damage generalized acceptance of such ideas would do to their all-important careers and 6-7 figure incomes.

When a critical mass of the American people come to understand that they have been lied to and flummoxed by this bunch of fast talking sharpies whose political world view is shaped by the Marxist argument "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs," (not Lindsey's, I hasten to add!), then the jig will be up, and a fair, flat National Retail Sales Tax will replace the income tax.

In the meantime, we have a lot of educating to do!

Start here: http://www.salestax.org and here: http://www.votr.org.
35 posted on 11/20/2002 8:54:16 AM PST by Taxman
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