Posted on 11/19/2002 11:39:39 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
A spokesman for a leading U.S.-based Muslim organization insisted Sunday that conservative Christian leaders Rev. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Rev. Jimmy Swaggart are just as bad as Osama bin Laden because, given the chance, they would commit mass murder against Muslims.
"They're the equivalent of our Osama bin Laden," said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), in an interview with WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.
"Why did Osama bin Laden send planes into the World Trade Center? What possible reason?," Hooper asked rhetorically. "The only thing you can think of is that he wanted to create a permanent divide between the Muslim world and the West. And that's the same thing these guys want to do."
Questioned on whether he thought the three Christian conservatives wanted to kill Muslims, Hooper initially told Malzberg, "Their tactics are obviously not the same but their goals are the same..... Their goals are to divide people along religious lines and to create an unending civilizational conflict that does no one any good."
But moments later, Hooper charged that Falwell, Robertson and Swaggart would commit mass murder against Muslims if they had the chance.
MALZBERG: And what do you think Osama bin Laden's goals are?
HOOPER: About the same thing (unending civilizational conflict).
MALZBERG: Not to kill Christians and Jews and Westerners?
HOOPER: Yes, that's one of his goals. And I'm sure that, given the right circumstance, these guys would do the same in the opposite direction. (End of Excerpt)
Hooper offered the ugly comparison just two days after President Bush responded to CAIR's call for the White House to condemn the three Christian leaders for criticizing Islam as a violent religion.
In a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan on Friday - two days after CAIR issued its complaint - Bush said, "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others."
Secretary of State Colin Powell echoed Bush's remarks in comments later that day.
Hooper said he was pleased by the president's comments, but regretted that he did not specifically cite Falwell, Robertson and Swaggart by name.
"It would have been good for the president to name names," Hooper told Malzberg. "But I think it's clear that, on background, a top official said, 'Yeah, that's who he was talking about - the Swaggarts, the Robertsons, the Falwells."
Though prohibited by tax law from engaging in overt campaigning, Robertson and Falwell are considered staunch allies of the Bush White House, and their ministries were responsible for adding millions of votes to the GOP column.
The White House did not respond by presstime to Mr. Hooper's comments comparing the top Christian leaders to the world's most notorious terrorist.
More like Lord Haw Haw.
But the guy provides exactly the rationale for why Powell and Bush are correct in telling Falwell and Robertson to SHUT THE F*** UP!!!
Those guys are being represented as "religious leaders," which to people in an Islamic country means "de facto government."
Now we know why they invented the concept of 'zero'--they had to be able to describe the magnitude of their dedications and contributions to logic and world peace.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a Muslim country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told the Star Tribune. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
Hooper noted in the interview that Muslims aren't allowed to take over the U.S. and other governments. "What we fight for here and in the remainder of the world is to practice our beliefs," he said.
Calls to CAIR and Hooper's office by WorldNetDaily were not returned.
I hated algebra. Geometry rules!!
Seems like the Christian fundies are relatively decent, unless you equate nasty talk with mass murder.
"Algebra" may be an Arabic word, but the Arabs learned it from the (Muslim) Moghuls, who learned it from their Hindu slaves. Likewise place value notation (that is, the zero).
These discoveries are historically called "Arabic" because the Europeans got them from the Arabs. Don't forget that Islam arose during the very low ebb of Western civilization known as the Dark Ages.
The struggle and cross-fertilization of the two cultures led to the revival of civilization in the West (the Renaissance). Islam on the other hand, after a brief flowering, sank back into the Dark Ages and stayed there.
For example the number of nazis or communists who took up cudgels must have been small in comparision to the masses of lawful members. Yet it would be ridiculious for me to characterize nazism or bolshevism as being peaceful movements hijacked by a few extremists. Any intelligent analysis of nazism or communism must examine how those movements generated the capacity for organized terror, even if proportially small in comparison to the 'good' members.
It is entirely relevant and legitimate to examine how the doctrine and history of jihad in islam gives rise to terror. It is legitimate to analyze the theology and sociology of the transmission of terror. Sorry Colin, sorry W. We don't believe you on this one.
Great answer.
Unfortunately, the "big lie" works.
They couldn't make any progress with the great philosophy they stole from the Eastern Church because it couldn't be squared with their irrational "revelation." It's no accident that Aquinas provided the great synthesis and not Avicenna or Averhoes.
They did?
I only heard that Falwell called Mohammed a terrorist, which he was.
Ignorant statements like this help explain why Muslim dominated societies are so stunted and lag far behind the rest of the world.
This man is an idiot who's completely lost his moral compass.
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