TARGET: Tom Tancredo (Warned "never to darken the door of the White House again.")

Roll Call ^ | November 18, 2002 | Josh Kurtz

[nanny]

You know on the subject of RACISM - think about it - it only works if the person, in fact, is not a RACIST. It wouldn't matter to a RACIST to be called one. So, believe me, the folks using that term - know it isn't true. They just hope that, because you are a decent person, it will wound you so you will shut up, because they have no other way to handle the truth.

I have adopted the position, that each and every time, I will respond by pointing out they put forth no idea, common sense or facts - just RACISM!. I no longer say "I am not a RACIST" I realize that is a given, or they would not have used it in the first place.

This is a tactic that has been so detrimentally in our country in the past and will be in the future unless we counter it every time and not be afraid of it. That is why I 'scream' it each time I post.

Someone just wrote me that my 'epic' post raised the suspicion of RACISM!. You see, they didn't call me a RACIST - just 'suspected' I was.

[Bikers4Bush]

And yet it mentions nothing about removing the illegals that are already here.

All well and good to say what you'd do if and when, what about now?

[archy]

If you don't want Spanish as your official language, I suggest you voice your opinion to that effect.

yIDoqhQo' tlhInqan maH! buy' nqop!

-archy-/-

[DoughtyOne]

To: Deb

What laws of the land has he not upheld?

There's a section of the Constitution that says that our borders must be protected from invasion. A biggie, especially after September 11.

512 posted on 11/18/2002 11:56 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

Thanks for proving you're incapable of rational thought.

Going round and round with the Bozo Brigade soaks up valuable hours of life and ends up with looney statements like yours.

Your fears have been addressed. Start at the first post and read the thread. If you still feel the need to overstate, exaggerate and talk stupid...you're on your own.

Best of luck.

827 posted on 11/19/2002 12:35 PM PST by Deb
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FYI
 

From the

Constitution of the United States

Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Section 2. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.

Section 3. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
 

If the Bozo Brigade is the last defender of the Constitution of the United States, consider me a proud member.

[nanny]

[P.S. I didn't scream it, but I notice you sure did in this reply.]

Oh yes, you did! It is always screamed. It is one of those words that screams by it's very usage - you realize that.

Now you bet I screamed it and will continue to do so. It shows I am not afraid of those kind of tactics. You know and I know that it will only work on someone who is, in fact, a decent person. It wouldn't matter otherwise. So since you know and I know it isn't true - then I will make it very prominent to let you and others know - it is an insult that is not to be feared because it is so blatantly false and the accuser is well aware of that fact.

The sooner this country frees itself of the tactics of intimidation, the sooner we can actually discuss our problems and perhaps reach some solutions.

[DoughtyOne]

Same to you buddy! LOL I haven't been cussed at in Vietnamese before. Or was it Vietnamese?

[nanny]

In this paragraph, where did I use them interchangeably - I repeat, I repeat - I said, ' some are in favor because 3 generatons back, their grandfather was an immigrant, or they are married to an immigrant, etc. Now unless those family members were illegals, it is an insult to their families". Show me how I interchanged? You see, I made a definite distinction between legal and illegal - nothing interchangeable in that. "Just because someone has an immigrant in their families (and who doesn't?) is a very mnisguided reason to support illegal immigration. There is absolutely no interchanging here - to the contrary - there is a definite distinction.

You cannot find it there any more than you can find any 'suspicion' of RACISM.

[DoughtyOne]

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In this short exchange you stated...

I do live in Arizona where there is a large Spanish speaking population. I like it and I truly don't have the least fear that it will overtake English as the dominant
language.

This intimated to me that you don't have a problem with Spanish becoming a rival language to English in your area.  The offshoot of this is that in your area teachers, healthcare workers, emergency services employees, public service employees and others can't get jobs unless they speak Spanish.

I'm not trying to put words into your mouth, but this is the impact of your inference.  Did I misinterpret your thoughts?  Does this reality trouble you?

[Magnum44]

All well and good to say what you'd do if and when, what about now?

Who's been blocking this? Huhhh?

[4Freedom]

"So we're taking a number of steps to continue securring our borders.

The Bush administration hasn't done anything up until now to secure our borders and they're likely to do less in the future.

Nice catch, Drill.

[archy]

Tens of thousands of people are killed in automobiles each year and someone might even write a goofy poem about it.

Paul Shanklins parody song In a Yugo, popularized on Rush Limbaugh's show and found on Shanklin's Executive Privilidges album, comes to mind. So do a LOT of '50s and '60s *carcrash* songs, including Jan and Dean's Dead Man's Curve.

[4Freedom]

Gesund heit!

[ClancyJ]

I hope I'm right too. If not - I'll be mad along with all the others.

[cyncooper]

It was the part you just left off here that made it clear. You stated that "Some are in favor because President Bush is and they are just not going to question his actions."

Now, President Bush is certainly not in favor of illegal immigration, so that leaves the statement meaning that because President Bush has not closed the borders on legal immigration, too, then one is also in favor of illegal immigration, meaning one has a problem with *any* immigration.

Oh, wait. I suppose you are going to say that President Bush DOES support illegal immigration. Obviously false.

[ClancyJ]

I just don't know how the government can afford all this. Sure glad the dems are not in charge or we would be facing the biggest tax increase ever.

Bin Laden must be proud - said he wanted to take down our economy.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Classical conservatives (pro-liberty conservatives) must ask themselves if the modern Republican party truly stands for classical, traditional conservative values.

The push-button-Bush-Bot responses on this thread have answered this question.

[Magnum44]

I think you should read this wrt border security and then restate your comment.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/deptofhomeland/sect1.html

Democrats have blocked this for a year now.

[PuNcH]

Now, President Bush is certainly not in favor of illegal immigration

We have a crime wave of illegal immigration and Bush has done nothing about it but give speeches that legitimize it. Amnesties support and promote illegal immigration.

No Bush doesnt say he is in favor of "illegal immigration" instead he says he is in favor migrant workers while in the meantime our borders and citizens are being trampled over by criminals looking for a free-handout from the govt.