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China Eyes U.S. Ports (Hutchison Whampoa alert!)
Insight on the News ^ | 11/18/02 | J. Michael Waller

Posted on 11/18/2002 3:30:27 PM PST by Heartlander2

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1 posted on 11/18/2002 3:30:27 PM PST by Heartlander2
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To: Heartlander2
Though that said "China Eyes U.S. Parts" for a second. (You know ...body parts...)
2 posted on 11/18/2002 3:44:39 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: maui_hawaii; backhoe; Travis McGee
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3 posted on 11/18/2002 3:49:23 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Heartlander2
Geez...Ain't they happy with just the canal???
4 posted on 11/18/2002 3:51:24 PM PST by litehaus
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To: Heartlander2
You should expect Patty "mom in tennis shoes" Murray to be very accomodating to the chinese communists. DemocRATs like her have been trying to give America away for decades.
5 posted on 11/18/2002 4:06:27 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Heartlander2
"Santoli is troubled that Tacoma, Wash., is an initial U.S. port for the program testing.

HHMMMMM....We live right above this port (I can hear the cranes moving those COSCO containers right now.) I have mixed feelings about this....you would think a US company could find some way to make this happen, without involving the Chinese.....AND, I would like to know there is a more secure way of knowing what is in all those containers....

6 posted on 11/18/2002 4:12:49 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Heartlander2
I still think this is going to turn and bite us one day:

Unresolved Questions- the Panama canal, good, bad, or a waiting disaster?--thread II

7 posted on 11/18/2002 4:20:37 PM PST by backhoe
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To: goodnesswins
H-W already owns 1/3 of Husky oil (Canadas largest oil company) and I understand they have some interest in Gulf Coast (probably New Orleans) shipping. They may have a dock down there in another name.

Of course, they have port shipping facilities all over the Carribean. Not to mention the hotel facilities all over the world.

H-W is a big conglomerate.
8 posted on 11/18/2002 4:59:29 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: Heartlander2
LINKS OF INTEREST:

INSIGHT On The News online: "CHINA EYES U.S. PORTS" by J. Michael Waller (111802)

BERNAMA.COM - MALAYSIA NATIONAL NEWS AGENCY: "ISLAM IS DEEP-ROOTED IN CHINA" by Mohd Shukri Ishak (ARTICLE NOTE: There are 22 million Muslim people and 30,000 mosques in China.) (111502)

CHARISMA NEWS.com: PERSECUTION WATCH: "CHINA" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In the weeks leading to the party congress, which began last Friday, the government has banned books, blocked Internet sites and clamped down on other activists. China allows only government-monitored churches, and has harassed and imprisoned Christians who worship outside the official system.") (111102)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "CONGRESSIONAL WATCHDOG TO PROBE CHINESE SEC RELATIONS" by Bill Gertz (111202)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "SEC AIDE QUITS AFTER LEAK TO CHINESE" by Bill Gertz (ARTICLE NOTE: The former Securities and Exchange Commission aide is identified as Mylene Chan, a Chinese national.) (111102)

THE TIMES OF INDIA (AFP): "CHINA TO UNVEIL TOP SECRET WARPLANE" (ARTICLE NOTE: The warplane is an F-10 aka J-10 aka Jian-10 Fighter.) (110502)

NewsMax.com - Hot Topics: "CHINA/TAIWAN"

FREEREPUBLIC.com - Discussion Threads - Search Term: "CHINESE"

9 posted on 11/18/2002 5:01:40 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Lokibob
All that Wal Mart money sure adds up. Now all the big stores including the upscale ones like Macys carry almost all made in China merchandise. Not cheap stuff either. At the price some of this sells for I find it hard to believe that it could not be made here at a nice profit. America is like a once proud estate that has been looted of all it's things of value awaiting only the auctioneer to sell off what remains. We have squandered our legacy for short term gain. I am sure our children and grand kids will appreciate what we have done for them.
10 posted on 11/18/2002 5:28:59 PM PST by willyone
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To: NormsRevenge; ninenot; flamefront; Sawdring; Enemy Of The State; Jeff Head; brat; dalereed; ...

11 posted on 11/18/2002 6:03:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Hutchison Whampoa's recent purchase of a 61 percent stake in the troubled fiber-optic giant Global Crossing also has raised national-security concerns, as the company operates much of the hardware on which U.S. telecommunications, including military and intelligence channels, operate. That deal, at least, is under review.

Global Crossing paid a record sum of $2,000,000 to Anne Bingaman for six month's lobbying the FCC on its behalf. Bingaman was fresh from her Gates jihad at anti-trust and is wife to Jeff Bingaman whose commission to Beijing seated Charlie Trie as payoff for illegal Clinton donations. Trie of course was Jiang's mouthpiece to traitorrapist42 with his "Dear President" letter.

Terry McAuliffe made $18,000,000 providing this wiretap to the PLA.

Rub-a-dub-dub, hang them all, let God sort them out.

12 posted on 11/18/2002 6:31:24 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: willyone
Mirastar oil is the only oil company in CONUS that uses domestic (read Alaska) or Canadian crude exclusively. What oil they do buy on the open market is from Australia and is used in Hawaii. Unfortunately, Mirastar is only in the west.

Try to stay away from computer electronics made in PRC. It is difficult because so many components are PRC made. Try to keep to the Korean or Japanese brands if it isn't made in U.S.. Even the U.S. brands use chips produced in PRC.

The "Made in USA" brand label doesn't mean anything. Some clothing is SEWN in USA, but the fabric comes from PRC.

Do I have the answer, NO!!!! But I try. Wal Mart food is fairly priced and almost all domestic. Even Sears is drifting toward the far east.
13 posted on 11/18/2002 6:36:50 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: PhilDragoo
The Global Crossing deal really is worrying. GC, as you said, has contracts in many U.S. Defense areas.

On the plus side (and I'm not defending them), the more they get into our economy, the more they become dependent on us. Any conflict between the PRC and us would have devastating economic impacts on their economy.
14 posted on 11/18/2002 6:45:58 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: Lokibob
HW was also after port facilities in San Diego--another Naval base. It's not a coincidence that they like places where we keep nuke subs. Easy to pick up military intelligence by just standing around listening to GI's chatter.

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to use my .30-06 on a few of those COSCO rail/truck trailers.
15 posted on 11/18/2002 7:20:24 PM PST by ninenot
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To: PhilDragoo
...all of which is true and shows you that "follow the money" is more than just a saying...
16 posted on 11/18/2002 7:22:32 PM PST by ninenot
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To: Lokibob
Are you kidding? Their ECONOMY? The labor is provided at the point of a gun. People who lose $2.00/week are not exactly losing a great deal. The dictators and their families will not lose---all their assets are in Swiss banks.

THEY are tanking the US ECONOMY. Manufacturing jobs are disappearing left and right to China. For crying out loud, they're now angling for all the tool/die/stamping business floating around the Upper Midwest (what remains of it..)

PJBuchanan was not crazy. The Chinamen are winning the war and they have not had to fire a shot, yet. They bought and paid for Clinton and his FIRST SecDef., and the fruits are now being harvested.
17 posted on 11/18/2002 7:27:45 PM PST by ninenot
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To: ninenot
From the CIA fact book ( http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html ):
 
"In 2001, with its 1.27 billion people but a GDP of just $4,300 per capita, China stood as the second largest economy in the world after the US (measured on a purchasing power parity basis)."
 
$4,300 is $82 a week, not $2.50.  Since most of the people in PRC are agricultial workers, we can assume that the workers in factories make more.
 
Now, perhaps you misunderstood me.  Without our infusion of greenbacks into China, their economy would be tanked very quickly.  At the very least, they would have less to spend on military toys.  I maintain that we should "BUY AMERICAN" in order to at least keep the Greenbacks out of their hand.

18 posted on 11/18/2002 8:11:47 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: ninenot
Besides all of that, it isn't JUST the Chinese that are buying America.

Mercedes (Germany) owns Chrysler. Burger King is owned by Grand met (GB). The list goes on and on. All steel now is made overseas. Pop the top on your computer, look at the chips. That is scary.

Japan is buying all the agricultural land in the U.S. that comes open.

Yes, the Clinton administration sold out our country, and now we, the people need to reclaim it.

We need to become more aware of what we are buying. That is why I try to research where I spend my money.
19 posted on 11/18/2002 8:27:29 PM PST by Lokibob
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