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"...Imagine how ludicrous it is that grown adults would seriously contemplate moving to some far-away place just for the express purpose of inflicting their cruel toleration upon their neighbors..."
# 139 by Cultural Jihad
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Libertarian principles created this country.

Cultural Jihad, you say that libertarians want to force their cruel intolerance upon their innocent neighbors.

If so, why did libertarians bother with a Constitution? Why recognize the God-given rights of men, and then charge the government to refrain from interfering with those rights? Why create a system of justice where all men are equal under the law?

Libertarian principles are all that protect our rights. Socialist views like the ones you promote would destroy the rule of law.

Are you going to join the free state project? I think it is a great idea. Hell you guys could show us dolts how it could be. Go for it, I support the project 100%. I hope the population of the state that is targeted for liberation is enlightened enough to accept it. I am sure they will be happy to see all 20,000 freedom fighters that will lead them to the promise land. Your name fits right in doesn't it?

" Libertarian principles " did NOT " create this country ". As a matter of fact, Libertarians have purloined some of its supposed " principles " and claim that they invented them / that the FFs were Libertarians; all the while, denying factual history.

If you, for one moment, believe that the FFs and those who lived here during the Revolution and immediately afterwards, were NOT intolerant of much and did NOT " want to impose their " cruel " intolerence on others ", then you don't even know the most basic of things about history or about America !

In colonial times and down to only a few decades prior to today, there were laws against pornography, public lewdness, public intoxication, racial inetrmarriage, prostitution, sodomy, oral sex between even married couples, homosexuality, not attending church, gossipping,gambling, abortion, premarital sex, adultry ( which, BTW, is STILL on the books in Washington,D.C. ! ),stores / business being done on Sundays,blacks voting, women voting, and a whole panaply of other " intolerent " things that Libertarians are for.

Libertarians did NOT ( since they only became a subspecies of a fringe political party about 30 years ago ) write the Constitution, frame the BoR, become president, start this nations, nor any of the other wildly delusional things that you have written or think.

Oh and BTW, Jefferson, for all of the " good " that he did, was also pretty bad , re Libertarian positions. He kept slaves, he was a profligate, and had a losuy take on some foreign policy matters. Heck, he did NOT even bother to go to Congress, so that they could " declare war ", before he went after the Barbary pirates. He also almost got us involved in the French Revolution !